Smoking in Model S

[AnOutsider]

Ok, I'm not going to line by line a response to a post that was mostly facetious. I would've hoped you realized I didn't literally mean sprinkling cocaine on French fries...

 

[jerry33]

causes anti-social personality alterations (paranoia, schizophrenia, etc.)

Like political commercials during an election year.

 

[herbvdh]

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! and if a person does it will be a long walk home for them if I don't do otherwise!!! I never smoked at all not even a drag. The stink is awful.

 

[vfx]

Like describing the Internal Combustion Engine.


Dave:

Like I said, if someone created a product that was highly addictive (new energy drink for example) that caused cancer and added billions of dollars a year to health care costs it would instantly be banned. No questions asked. There would be public outrage that a company was allowed to sell such an addictive, destructive product. You can indulge in bad food now and then and not cause long term damage. It's tough to make that argument with cigarettes.

Orthonos:

If someone came up to the government today and said "I've got this new product, no real beneficial effects, as addictive as crack cocaine, will kill tens to hundreds of thousands per year - including innocents just exposed to it second hand - and will be a major source of polution (air and cigarette butts everywhere)" do you think it would be legalized?? *deep breath* ok, nvm me. Although I laugh everytime I tell smoker patients how they have increased risks of death, infection, non-union and delayed union compared to normal people and they look at me stunned, stuttering that they didn't know. Right.

It would never fly if presented today.

 

[daniel]

Like political commercials during an election year.

Now THAT'S something that definitely should be illegal! Actually, I think the country would be better off if we just threw all political candidates in prison as soon as they qualified to be on the ballot. :tongue:

 

[Johan]

That's basically true but if you consider the societal cost of paying for health care hurting, smoking is a multi-billion a year problem. So is obesity. We can't ban every bad thing but smoking, especially around kids, does no one any good. People want to smoke because it has been shown to be more addictive than almost anything out there.

Like I said, if someone created a product that was highly addictive (new energy drink for example) that caused cancer and added billions of dollars a year to health care costs it would instantly be banned. No questions asked. There would be public outrage that a company was allowed to sell such an addictive, destructive product. You can indulge in bad food now and then and not cause long term damage. It's tough to make that argument with cigarettes.

You know it complicates things when you look at it from a national economy standpoint: smokers live WAY shorter, like 10 years, but those years are cut from the end of their lives, where they're no longer productive/contributing much to the GNP (i.e. They are retired). So they may actually save us money. Though they are a lot sicker during their productive life. Don't get me wrong - I hate smoking, would love to see it illegalized over the next 10-20 years. I work as a GP and see the damages daily.

 

[v12 to 12v]

However, I try not to force my will on others - if those sad wretches are addicted to tobacco, I don't inflame their misery by telling them they can't smoke. But they must carry their own ash trays.

--Ardie

You sound compassionate Ardie. Kudos.

I'm an odd one. I don't smoke but I really like the smell of cigarette smoke and other kinds of smoke. I even like the sulfur smell from fireworks and matches.
I just don't like the lingering nicotine smell that clings to everything or the smell of stale smoke.
Therefore, no smoking in the S.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

I think it's illegal in California.


At least it should be ;-)

It's illegal to smoke with children in the car in Maine. It was originally just a law in Bangor but it metastasized.

 

[ElSupreme]

You sound compassionate Ardie. Kudos.

I'm an odd one. I don't smoke but I really like the smell of cigarette smoke and other kinds of smoke. I even like the sulfur smell from fireworks and matches.
I just don't like the lingering nicotine smell that clings to everything or the smell of stale smoke.
Therefore, no smoking in the S.

I hate the smoke but tobacco has an awesome smell. Even crappy cigarette tobacco smells awesome to me. I don't smoke and have never smoked.

 

[cinergi]

I hate the smoke but tobacco has an awesome smell. Even crappy cigarette tobacco smells awesome to me. I don't smoke and have never smoked.

I thought I was the only one ...

 

[daniel]

I hate the smoke but tobacco has an awesome smell. Even crappy cigarette tobacco smells awesome to me. I don't smoke and have never smoked.

Tobacco itself has a pleasant smell, as most plant leaves do. New-mown grass and hay smell fresh and wonderful. I find all smoke to be painfully nasty, including incense, which is supposed to smell nice. I don't like perfume, either. I like natural smells, like flowers and hay and the mountainside after a rain and a cat after he washes himself. Perfume is just cloying, and smoke is dirty.

 

[sp4rk]

Tobacco smoke is filthy and disgusting. When I was a child, everyone in my family smoked except me. I never did. I was probably ten when I asked my mom for a drag off her cigarette. She let me. It disgusted me and I never wanted to try it again. I'll say it: Smoking is STUPID!!! I always ate slowly. At my dad's house (where I was forced, against my will, to spend alternate weekends) everybody lit up while I was still eating. If I waved the smoke away at table or in the car, my dad would scold me for being rude!!! Smoking in the presence of children is CHILD ABUSE!!!

Okay, so there are two kinds of smokers: There are smokers who acknowledge that it's a bad habit and that second-hand smoke is disgusting and causes a thousand kinds of disease, and they avoid smoking around non-smokers or in other people's cars and homes. Then there are the a-holes who insist that it's their right to smoke wherever they damn well feel like it. When my step-father's health was deteriorating from cigarettes, he would insist petulantly that cigarettes were the only thing keeping him alive. He would smoke in no-smoking areas and in buildings where the fire department had prohibited smoking. A friend arrived at my house and I asked him to please put out his cigarette before coming in. He didn't reply. He didn't say a word. He just turned around and left and never spoke to me again.

Tobacco companies are absolutely no different than drug cartels and their executives belong in prison.

I do not permit smoking in my home or my car. I won't go places where smoking is permitted. And I do not spend time with smokers who do not respect other people's lungs. I have friends who smoke, but they do it out of doors and are careful to stay downwind.

Today there was a smoker in the car ahead of me, and even that far away I could smell it, and it was disgusting. If I didn't already know that our government is a corrupt pack of gangsters, the fact that tobacco is not illegal would be proof enough.

+1000 ...

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I hate the smoke but tobacco has an awesome smell. Even crappy cigarette tobacco smells awesome to me. I don't smoke and have never smoked.

Ok, ElSupreme, I've read (and admired) a lot of your posts over the months ... but now I have to label you weird.

Like me.

As I love the smell of roof tar. And people call me weird cause of that. Same camp?

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Jeeeesh .. I am slow ... it was not until today that I realized that ... my new car doesn't have an ashtray!

Brilliant!!!

Didn't notice as I don't smoke. (Nor does the car mind you.)

 

[kcveins]

Can't stand it. I hate being in an examining room with a patient who is a smoker. It's worse when their entire family of smokers is there as well. Nauseating.

++100000!!

Its tough to hold your breath or breathe thru your mouth while having to talk in that situation...

 

[Laumb]

I wish I could remember which country it was that tried to ban all tobacco advertising, and the U.S. threatened severe retaliation if they did not drop the plan.

This not the same country you speak of, but here, In Norway, advertisement for tobacco is not legal In any form. They have even banned having the tobacco visible In-stores. If you are to get a pack of sigarettes you Ask the cashier if they have, say, Marlboro - and they have to get up, go to the hidden away place where they hide their tobacco, and see if they Are able to get you a pack.

I really think this has put an easy end on buying sigarettes. Not that smokers will stop, but In recruiting younger kids - it might be more difficult for them to ask and get it fetched than just getting a pack from an arms lenght.




Tapatalkin' from iTalatut...

 

[EVie'sDad]

how anyone can drive a clean air vehicle like a tesla and then pollute their lungs with toxic noxious chemicals is beyond me, its like you still want to breath bad air. Kindly refrain from doing it around the superchargers, or perhaps we request tesla make all supercharger no-smoking areas or create designated smoking areas far enough away and down-wind so as not to pollute the lungs of us non-smokers.

 

[Fiver]

Well everyone has a right to do what they want with their own bodies. If you own a Tesla, and want to smoke in your Tesla, go ahead, it's your choice. I'm a former smoker, used to smoke like a chimney in my old car. I still have it, and after 2 years it no longer smells like smoke. I don't mind if people smoke in my car either. I haven't had a cigarette in 3 years, but damn I miss it every day and still love the smell of someone smoking around me.

I get that most people don't want to be around others who are smoking, that's fine. And as a smoker (if you are) you should be understanding of that at this point. So if you smoke you should be at least courteous enough to not smoke around people.

That said, if someone is outside, smoking, away from people in a place it's allowed. Don't give them crap. It's their choice and you can just move away from them.

Are there any places left where you can smoke indoors still? Vegas casinos are the only place I can think of. Oh and the designated smoking room at the Salt Lake City airport.

 

[EVie'sDad]

Well everyone has a right to do what they want with their own bodies. If you own a Tesla, and want to smoke in your Tesla, go ahead, it's your choice. I'm a former smoker, used to smoke like a chimney in my old car. I still have it, and after 2 years it no longer smells like smoke. I don't mind if people smoke in my car either. I haven't had a cigarette in 3 years, but damn I miss it every day and still love the smell of someone smoking around me.

I get that most people don't want to be around others who are smoking, that's fine. And as a smoker (if you are) you should be understanding of that at this point. So if you smoke you should be at least courteous enough to not smoke around people.

That said, if someone is outside, smoking, away from people in a place it's allowed. Don't give them crap. It's their choice and you can just move away from them.

Are there any places left where you can smoke indoors still? Vegas casinos are the only place I can think of. Oh and the designated smoking room at the Salt Lake City airport.

I had been a smoker for almost four years, decades ago, but I found myself now being more disgusted with it than before, simply because I understand it is a conscious effort to take up smoking, and I am well aware of the dangerous and debilitating effects of the toxic chemical mix in that smoke, so I have become even more intolerant of others who do not consider the health and well being of others in their continued use of such a product. I do not ask that you cease smoking, just to be thoughtful in your use of it in mixed company or at social gathering places such as the Superchargers. We should all be allowed to live our lives happily, and you can help by being sure to take that into consideration when you choose to utilize the same service i choose to.

Choosing to smoke at your car when sharing parking next to another at a supercharger does not automatically give you the right to puff away and rain down smoke clouds on other Tesla patrons at the same facility.

I too would really hate to require Tesla or the local municipalities to have to regulate this further, I just am asking for some thoughtfulness when you are in proximity to others who are less likely to smoke.

Thank you.

 

[wdolson]

This is a really old thread that have been resurrected. I have always been very allergic to tobacco. I can smell it in a car if anyone has ever smoked in it.

When I was looking at ICEs I noted some had an extra add on for an ash tray. No car comes with one anymore. It hadn't even occurred to me that Tesla doesn't even offer an ashtray add on. That's how far smoking is from my consciousness these days. Washington tended to lead the way in smoking restriction laws, so I rarely even see smokers anymore.

 

[SSD420]

I won't be too surprised if I see one or two in at least the last slot. Smokers are often unaware of the smell, they live in their vehicles and homes and fee it's their personal space to smoke--particularly since there are so many fewer public and even private spaces where smoking is permitted.

Smokers are very aware about the smell of cigarettes. I didn't like the options I the poll. Yes I will smoke in model X occasionally. Although I won't let other smoke in my car.

 

[SSD420]

how anyone can drive a clean air vehicle like a tesla and then pollute their lungs with toxic noxious chemicals is beyond me, its like you still want to breath bad air. Kindly refrain from doing it around the superchargers, or perhaps we request tesla make all supercharger no-smoking areas or create designated smoking areas far enough away and down-wind so as not to pollute the lungs of us non-smokers.

How about instead of restricting where outside or in my car that I smoke, that you don't stand near or down wind of me? I'm allergic to your smugness.