Publicly criticizing list prices is not a "friendly" negotiating tactic. It's rude. Period.
The reason you might see that response, is because some version of this question is posted here on TMC at least 1-2 times a day, every day, and has been for at least the last 3 years I have been here. Doesnt make it "right" but if you realize that members here have seen some version of this exact question maybe 200 or more times, it might explain the reaction.
In the model 3 subforum I moderate, I take all those posts and put them in a single thread, so people can search it for answers (and so that the question doesnt overwhelm the subforum). That thread is here:
Range Loss Over Time, What Can Be Expected, Efficiency, How to Maintain Battery Health
I purchased a 2021 M3P in June, and drive a lot for work. I've seen the typical battery degradation described by many on this forum since I've put around 25k miles on it, down about 7% from the original 315 EPA range when I got it. However this morning the range suddenly dropped 30 miles and...teslamotorsclub.com
its 179 pages (not posts, pages), on some variation of your question.
now, I dont think you should (nor expect you to) read that entire thread. You can search it if you desire, and deep dive into the topic. For a VERY " TL ; DR" (too long, didnt read) version.
The car uses an estimate, its not like gas, and a battery is not quite as simple to measure as a fuel tank
The range is based on EPA estimates, and unless one drives like that (like 42 MPH or something on flat land) should be taken as "best case if I drive 42 MPH).
There is a thread I can dig up on the actual algorithms that people have deduced over time, if that is something you are interested in (the EPA algorithms) but to answer the "unasked" general question that comes up around this post, what you are seeing is perfectly 100% normal.
This thread below is on "charge data" and is a more technical one than the one above so those two should get you started. I know this is the model Y subforum but model 3 and Y have the same battery, so 100% of this is applicable.
If he posts the same nonsense in investor thread he will be banned within 5 minutes. TMC doesn’t care about this sub forum, so he gets away with being the ultimate troll here.
If you don't want to read the thread - skip it. It takes more energy and anger to click the thread, reply, and post. Instead, just skip it. Not everyone has had a Tesla for years. Calm down. It is YOUR CHOICE to click on the thread.Oh goody.. Yet another range/range anxiety thread. How NEW and FRESH!
Yup.
Not surprised that this new user couldn't be bothered to search, Google it, or watch a video on YouTube and get their answer. The amount of information available out there is overwhelming.
"HD Map" is a trollish comment in a Tesla thread. Go create a separate thread.
So to make you feel better the new refresh has a few awesome changes.. front passenger arm rests are wider, console actually high enough to rest your elbow on, so you can chill with autopilot on. The yoke was weird for a second, but great for cruising, visually, convenient buttons. Son was impressed how quick the screens are. The new gray paint rocks. Black trim rocks, new wheels rock. Light in frunk. Back is a little wider inside, so you can probably stack one or two sets of golf clubs.
To his credit, I think he was just referring to the fact that yes there is a way to sell/transfer your reservation if you’re a first time Tesla buyer. Not necessarily that he’s condoning cheating the system.
What? That’s how you took my message? Don’t you think I’d have an MX by now if I was into cheating? But sure, I’ll be your “reason” to leave now that you have your X. Enjoy the car!
Yup you wanted to bet me "people could get Reservations transfered". Of course they "can", but its not allowed or ethical. Bizarre you would go on an online forum and brag and bet you can show people how to cheat the system. Not how I run my life or business or raised my kids. Why go there when so many people are waiting for cars? But you choose to promote a way to cheat the system and people diligently waiting for cars. Strange.
Ahhh myself and three other people requested politeness, someone else questioned if people should be buying cars if they're so upset. I appreciated his perspective. I see no reason Stro needed to adversarialy "bet you you can transfer a reservation even though its not allowed". I'm a girl and business owner. I don't care for people talking about cheating the system when so many people are waiting for over a year for a car. Why be so disrespectful to the people whose leases are running out, down to one family car? You know people will try it now. I'm into car tech, but still a polite girl. Guess it is just a bad guy joke...unless you don't have your car.
You crack me up. I unignored you thinking you may have changed. I was wrong. Please go enjoy your car. I promise you will not get another response from me as I won’t see any of your posts again. Love how you think you’re so righteous. Goodbye.
What???? I stated you can't transfer reservations. Stro adversialy bet me you can even though its not allowed by Tesla and I'm the bad guy ruining the vibe, because he wants to teach people to cheat? Just ignore me. Waiting for a couple friends to get cars and I share valid information. Maybe Stro will get removed for promoting activities against Tesla policy.
