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So how much power does a P100D have WITHOUT launch mode?

Discussion in 'Model S: Driving Dynamics' started by sorka, Apr 22, 2017.

  1. sorka

    sorka Active Member

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    Note sure if I actually believe this article:

    Tesla’s latest update only allows performance vehicles to reach max power on ‘Launch Mode’

    Given that the battery counter crap only applied to P90DL V2/V3 cars and not the P100D or earlier Ludicrous cars that were already only 1500 amps.

    So does this change apply to the P100D? How many amps will the P100D pull without launch mode? The config file had it at 1762 amps at launch and it was making about 575KW.

    Has this changed if you don't use launch mode?
     
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    I have measured 522kw at 85 % warm but no max battery or launch mode.
    Never tried max batt, launch or lud plus.
     
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    in Ludicrous+ with heated battery, I am getting 560kw WITHOUT launch mode with the latest software. Very very close to the launch mode max of 575 or so. it's a non-issue.
     
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    The 575 kw is for the easter egg mode which draws 1850 amps. That's 1850 amps divided by 86 cell in parallel or 21.5 amps per cell. Without easter egg mode the P100DL draws 1760 amps from 86 cells in parallel or 20.5 amps per cell. That's about 560 kw.

    The P90DLv3 draws 1620 amps from 74 cell in parallel or 21.8 amps per cell. Limited to 1520 amps, the P90DL draws 20.5 amps per cell.

    So the non easter egg mode of the P100DL stresses the cells like the 1520 amp limited mode of the P90DL v3.
    Easter egg mode is the same level of stress on the cells as the unlimited 1620 amps of a P90DL v3

    The 575 kw is for the easter egg mode which draws 1850 amps. That's 1850 amps divided by 86 cell in parallel or 21.5 amps per cell. Without easter egg mode the P100DL draws 1760 amps from 86 cells in parallel or 20.5 amps per cell. That's about 560 kw.

    The P90DLv3 draws 1620 amps from 74 cell in parallel or 21.8 amps per cell. Limited to 1520 amps, the P90DL draws 20.5 amps per cell.

    So the non easter egg mode of the P100DL stresses the cells like the 1520 amp limited mode of the P90DL v3.
    Easter egg mode is the same level of stress on the cells as the unlimited 1620 amps of a P90DL v3
     
  5. sorka

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    The config for the 1600 amp battery in Ludicrous:

    <entry key="75">
    <dict>
    <entry key="value"><str>S4_75</str></entry>
    <entry key="packType"><str>S4</str></entry>
    <entry key="maxCurrent"><int>1600</int></entry>
    <entry key="performanceAddOn"><str>Ludicrous</str></entry>
    <entry key="capacity"><int>90</int></entry>
    </dict>
    </entry>

    The 1500 amp is really 1516:

    <entry key="71">
    <dict>
    <entry key="value"><str>S4_71</str></entry>
    <entry key="packType"><str>S4</str></entry>
    <entry key="maxCurrent"><int>1516</int></entry>
    <entry key="performanceAddOn"><str>Ludicrous</str></entry>
    <entry key="capacity"><int>90</int></entry>
    </dict>
    </entry>

    If you're seeing 1620, then it must be a temporary overshoot.

    The 85 Ludicrous is also 1516:

    <entry key="64">
    <dict>
    <entry key="value"><str>S3_64</str></entry>
    <entry key="packType"><str>S3</str></entry>
    <entry key="maxCurrent"><int>1516</int></entry>
    <entry key="performanceAddOn"><str>Ludicrous</str></entry>
    <entry key="capacity"><int>85</int></entry>
    </dict>
    </entry>
     
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    #6 TIppy, Apr 23, 2017
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    Yeah, with the recent firmware I'm only seeing about 1605 amps max, but I used to get about 1620 amps. My max power is now about 1% less too.
     
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