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So tell me about a model 3 without EAP. What will it still do.

vickh

Active Member
Dec 16, 2018
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471
az
I don't have EAP on my 3, but I have had the two free trials of V.8 and V.9 . It got better in 9, but not $5000 worth of better.

If Tesla had a $50 per month subscription plan.... I'd probably get it, but $5K all at once? Hell no.

And I'd like to know how Tesla justifies charging more to turn EAP on later after you already have the car. It's a simple software unlock. It is a blatant money grab, yet again, for Tesla.

you got 2 trials? Did they offer the $5K price each time after?
 

lolder

Member
Jun 11, 2016
880
672
SW Florida
The design auto-braking protocols are fundamentally different between EAP and non-EAP models. Rarely do observers note these differences — or TACC state — when sharing near-miss self-braking videos.

I cobbled together the graphic below to capture the differences. Two takeaways: (1) to properly assess braking performance IRL videos, we need to know if the M3 has EAP and whether and when TACC was engaged — and the car’s speed at which AEB deployed. (2) Whether or not you like TACC driving behaviors (and I do not), TACC undeniably makes a huge difference in AEB protection, and it’s silly to pretend that a $5-7k upgrade to get TACC does not fundamentally degrade the car’s AEB safety envelope.

Eventually Tesla will have to make TACC standard with or without EAP for AEB safety reasons. I believe It is inevitable. Maybe they’ll bump the base price but it will not be by $5000 or more.

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This confirms my feeling that EAP makes the car's braking performance much safer.
 

a.void

Member
Jun 12, 2017
286
272
Ohio
I didn't order EAP and poo pood it like others who don't have it.

Then I got the 30 day trial and I knew I immediately purchased it. It's now my favorite feature of the car.

I hate the cost, but I would recommend just biting the bullet and getting it with the car for the $5k.

That said... If you're pushing your budget already, then don't buy it and DO NOT take advantage of the trial. You don't want to see what you're missing.

If you take the trial anyways and find out the inevitable, then you can play the credit card game. Get a new credit card with the bonus rewards for the first purchas and take advantage of 12 months 0% interest. That will help defray your extra $500 ;).
 
Sep 4, 2018
267
325
NJ
I didn't order EAP and poo pood it like others who don't have it.

Then I got the 30 day trial and I knew I immediately purchased it. It's now my favorite feature of the car.

I hate the cost, but I would recommend just biting the bullet and getting it with the car for the $5k.

That said... If you're pushing your budget already, then don't buy it and DO NOT take advantage of the trial. You don't want to see what you're missing.

If you take the trial anyways and find out the inevitable, then you can play the credit card game. Get a new credit card with the bonus rewards for the first purchas and take advantage of 12 months 0% interest. That will help defray your extra $500 ;).
Meh. I had the trial and it had the opposite effect. No doubt it’s cool and I can see why people like it but it’s not for me until they refine it quite a bit.

If they fixed the following they’d have my money:

-phantom braking
-obstacle/debris/pothole avoidance
-nagging (maybe utilize the inside camera to monitor the driver’s eyes instead of requiring constant inputs)
 

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