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It is about proportional.
E.g., a car with a battery that is 20% larger than another will charge the same kWh about 20% faster
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So they've finally bumped up the UK ranges
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It is about proportional.
E.g., a car with a battery that is 20% larger than another will charge the same kWh about 20% faster
Jason71
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You are not comparing like with like. 310 is the EPA range from 219 which you are comparing to the 2022 WLTP range.
the WLTP in 2019 on an LR was ( help me out someone) about 343 I think. Not sure what the EPA is now? 330-350 depending on battery I think its not 389 so you are not comparing like with like. Not saying the current cars are not more efficient particularly in winter with the heat pump but we are talking like a 40 mile improvement not an 80 mile one from 310 to 389.
There are so many more superchargers now as well that I think its easier driving a 2019 car in 2022 than it would have been driving a 2022 car in 2019.
phil4
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Be aware that Tesla doesn't a) Choose to use WLTP figures nor b) Choose what those figures are.
WLTP is a set test/standard that all cars manufacturers have to follow. And in the UK at least Tesla has to state that figure. It's not allowed to state EPA, nor it's own. It has to do the test the way they mandate, and state the number it gives.
So while the WLTP figure may be wrong, misleading it's not Tesla's choice. They have to do it, and have to state it.
WLTP is a set test/standard that all cars manufacturers have to follow. And in the UK at least Tesla has to state that figure. It's not allowed to state EPA, nor it's own. It has to do the test the way they mandate, and state the number it gives.
So while the WLTP figure may be wrong, misleading it's not Tesla's choice. They have to do it, and have to state it.
rincewind
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Interesting that Tesla have updated the owners manual t nclude advice on jacking the car with the new 4680 structural pack, both model y and model 3
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Tesla adds Model Y and Model 3 structural battery pack to owner's manual
Tesla adds structural battery pack to latest Model Y and Model 3 online manuals, as it steps closer to fundamental change in car making methods.
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That's perfect thank you. Worth looking at the table near the end, even for those who don't have time to watch the whole thing.
do we know why tesla have reduced the power of the RWD motor? Surely if cost saving it would save barely anything - a few windings of copper (simplifying obviously) but the prices have gone up. Battery limits - well existing LFP cars have the higher performance motor so probably not that.
Just trying to increase the gap between it and the LR?
Just trying to increase the gap between it and the LR?
The newer motors are believed to be made in China and are probably quite a bit cheaper.
I don't think it is a gap thing between it and the LR - it hasn't concerned them before. Within the market they probably feel they are still very competitive even with a slower time.
I have a M3LR collection on 10th Feb and I spoke to Tesla today after noticing the increase in range on their site and they confirmed that the LR now come with the LFP batteries. I'm still dubious until collection but I did ask twice and they were 100% certain that my car will have them.
There is some confusion here. The LR doesn't come with LFP batteries. They are physically bigger and you wouldn't be able to fit enough capacity in to achieve the extra range that the the Long Range has over the standard range (RWD). The Battery in the Long Range has changed recently, but not to LFP.
Yup, @MrT3 just let me know that it's an increase in battery capacity not LFP. So Tesla were telling porkies.
Really? I wasn’t aware the LR now comes with the LFP. That’s interesting for sure
Ah thanks for the heads up there, yep I think im leaning towards wanting an LFP battery. Would have made the decision easier!
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