So you don't have a 2021 "refresh"...who cares, really?

[Marius A]

Can't believe this thread is still going.
But I guess we all have too much spare time nowadays (including me)

 

[audigex]

2021 changes are minimal. Heated steering wheel is pointless where I live.

Also, I really want to keep my stealth!!

The changes are minimal if you live in a warm climate, sure.... Californians aren't likely to give much of a *sugar*

If you live somewhere that has colder winters, though, the heated steering wheel is nice. But far more importantly, the heat pump makes a BIG difference to fuel economy in winter.

That isn't a "minimal change" for those of us in colder climates. Not even close

 

[Marius A]

The changes are minimal if you live in a warm climate, sure.... Californians aren't likely to give much of a *sugar*

If you live somewhere that has colder winters, though, the heated steering wheel is nice. But far more importantly, the heat pump makes a BIG difference to fuel economy in winter.

That isn't a "minimal change" for those of us in colder climates. Not even close

We don't know if he heat pump makes a big difference in winter yet. So far we know that it takes too much heat from the battery/motor so you end up with a slow TM3 with poor charging speed.

 

[chrisf60526]

AS someone who takes a ~30% hit on range with the colder weather, is there any data yet that shows how much the 2021 heat pump makes a difference?

 

[Marius A]

AS someone who takes a ~30% hit on range with the colder weather, is there any data yet that shows how much the 2021 heat pump makes a difference?

So far it's a mess. SW for he heat pump is unreliable in colder temperatures, and there's a big number of cars where it outright stops working.
For now there's not much reliable info

 

[DwightKSchrute]

if only Tesla spec was an actual spec like ISO 9000

ISO means very little TBH. If you have terrible procedures, but they are documented and followed, you meet ISO requirements.
I had some paint issues on my car, with bare metal showing and was told the car was within spec. I was able to influence Tesla and got the fender repainted and some paint repaired (but not all issues properly addressed).

 

[JaeTheDev]

AS someone who takes a ~30% hit on range with the colder weather, is there any data yet that shows how much the 2021 heat pump makes a difference?

HUGE difference. I was losing 10-30% at night with a SR+ 2020, and now with my 2021... maybe 2-3%. Nothing beats real life for data! LOL

 

[Reborn]

I don't care at all really about the cosmetic changes but I do wish my car had the ability to pull heat out of the battery to warm the cabin, that's the biggest win for the update by far. This can make a huge difference in winter efficiency if you preheat the battery before you leave on a cold trip or if you supercharge along your trip. That being said, not something i'd swap my car in for.

If you’re referring to the heat pump...it’s meh. I have the Y and it was a huge deal to ppl cos it’s coming with a heat pump. My 2019 3 heated much faster. The Y takes much longer...obviously this is Tesla so we’re talking about 2 minutes more instead of like seconds and the steering wheel stays cold for a long while. I don’t remember my 2019 steering wheel being that cold after preconditioning.

So the one thing I would appreciate is a heated steering wheel, I didn’t think I needed it with my 2019 3 but I feel it more with my Y. If someone can tell me how to add that, you’ll be a life saver

 

[Marius A]

If you’re referring to the heat pump...it’s meh. I have the Y and it was a huge deal to ppl cos it’s coming with a heat pump. My 2019 3 heated much faster. The Y takes much longer...obviously this is Tesla so we’re talking about 2 minutes more instead of like seconds and the steering wheel stays cold for a long while. I don’t remember my 2019 steering wheel being that cold after preconditioning.

So the one thing I would appreciate is a heated steering wheel, I didn’t think I needed it with my 2019 3 but I feel it more with my Y. If someone can tell me how to add that, you’ll be a life saver

If you had an early 2019 then the steering wheel was made out of real leather, they transitioned to faux leather for the steering wheel ~mid 2019. The real leather was softer, stitching was better (on mine) and I never noticed it was cold. The new one is colder, but I'm not particularly sensitive to cold (hot on the other hand, oof)

 

[Reborn]

If you had an early 2019 then the steering wheel was made out of real leather, they transitioned to faux leather for the steering wheel ~mid 2019. The real leather was softer, stitching was better (on mine) and I never noticed it was cold. The new one is colder, but I'm not particularly sensitive to cold (hot on the other hand, oof)

Wow! I didn’t even think of that. Mine was March 2019 so that makes sense. I notice the coldness so much with the Y, it’s annoying. I never cared about heating steering wheel before this.

 

[Marius A]

Wow! I didn’t even think of that. Mine was March 2019 so that makes sense. I notice the coldness so much with the Y, it’s annoying. I never cared about heating steering wheel before this.

Fingers crossed for possible retrofit now that China is pushing Performance cars with heated steering wheel.

 

[Fernand]

Well, since the leather on the older Model 3 steering wheel was comfortable, and mine sure is, then why not try a good leather cover for the newer cold steering wheel for starters, instead of trying to retrofit a heater ?

 

[Marius A]

Well, since the leather on the older Model 3 steering wheel was comfortable, and mine sure is, then why not try a good leather cover for the newer cold steering wheel for starters, instead of trying to retrofit a heater ?

Because real leather, while better than most faux products, does not have magic properties for temperatures between 5 and -30C

 

[Gsxr150]

Can't believe this thread is still going.
But I guess we all have too much spare time nowadays (including me)

Haha, but hopefully the 2021 folks now realize they have the same car as guys with 2017's.

 

[ganderking]

Haha, but hopefully the 2021 folks now realize they have the same car as guys with 2017's.

I’m going to use my new heated steering wheel to cook your tears.

 

[mswlogo]

HUGE difference. I was losing 10-30% at night with a SR+ 2020, and now with my 2021... maybe 2-3%. Nothing beats real life for data! LOL

What do you mean by “at night”? Phantom drain?

 

[Peteski]

Haha, but hopefully the 2021 folks now realize they have the same car as guys with 2017's.

I’m guessing you have a 2017 right?

 

[TBrownTX]

I’m going to use my new heated steering wheel to cook your tears.

Best. Post. Yet.

 

[JaeTheDev]

What do you mean by “at night”? Phantom drain?

No, I meant when wolves that feed on EV energy come and steal it. LOL

 

[Fernand]

No, seriously, how were you losing 10-20%?? Did you have the cabin temp retain on?