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Software stuck on 2021.3.104, but Tesla thinks I am on 2021.4. How can this be?

lonevvolf

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Nov 24, 2019
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I would just like to add my .02€ here - I am also a new owner of Model Y in Europe (made in China). Some of us are also waiting a few weeks for the first update from 2021.3.104. I've heard that others here have already gotten an update, but still trying to understand what's going on. I received mine on 02 Sept (deliveries started here only at end of August), and even the games were stuck in "Waiting for update...". Tesla was able to resolve this with a push, but system software remains on the older version. Don't want to confuse the situation, but maybe we can find a common thread...
 
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rjpjnk

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Mar 12, 2021
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Thanks for chiming in. It is interesting to see it's not just the USA stuck on 2021.3. As far as I am aware, nobody has ever received an update from 2021.3.104, (with the possible rare exception to 2021.4.18 or some other early .4 load where they remained stuck again).
 

CapinWinky

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maybe we can find a common thread...
At some point, new vision-only 3 and Y were shipping with 2021.4.12 or earlier and these cars were getting updates as usual up to .4.21.x and then also stopped getting updates. Then in early July, the 2021.3.104 cars started showing up. We have since seen .3.105, .3.106, and .3.106.5. These are not older than the .4. firmware and even list items in the revision history from .4.12. Right at the end of August, 2021.11.101 showed up, quickly followed by .11.102 and then 11.102.2 and now I've even seen 11.103 and 3.107. I'm pretty sure that the .3.107 came out after .11.102.2, so they are still actively developing both branches.

There are a few reports from early last week of a handful of people with .3.106(.5) and .11.102 that updated to .32.10, but the vast majority of all new 3 and Y since early-mid July have received no updates at all, not even to newer versions of their own branch. We know that this is for both Fremont and China cars. This isn't a normal quarantine of "a couple weeks" that new cars experience, it's something else.

I'm a bit surprised I haven't seen any news articles from places Teslarati with no new model 3 or Y getting any updates for more than two months.

EDIT: I just saw someone post that their car delivered in June with .3.102.6 and same-day updated to .4.18.x. An interesting datapoint along with all the other .3.x cars listing features from .4.x in their revision notes.
 
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lonevvolf

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At some point, new vision-only 3 and Y were shipping with 2021.4.12 or earlier and these cars were getting updates as usual up to .4.21.x and then also stopped getting updates. Then in early July, the 2021.3.104 cars started showing up. We have since seen .3.105, .3.106, and .3.106.5. These are not older than the .4. firmware and even list items in the revision history from .4.12. Right at the end of August, 2021.11.101 showed up, quickly followed by .11.102 and then 11.102.2 and now I've even seen 11.103 and 3.107. I'm pretty sure that the .3.107 came out after .11.102.2, so they are still actively developing both branches.

There are a few reports from early last week of a handful of people with .3.106(.5) and .11.102 that updated to .32.10, but the vast majority of all new 3 and Y since early-mid July have received no updates at all, not even to newer versions of their own branch. We know that this is for both Fremont and China cars. This isn't a normal quarantine of "a couple weeks" that new cars experience, it's something else.

I'm a bit surprised I haven't seen any news articles from places Teslarati with no new model 3 or Y getting any updates for more than two months.

EDIT: I just saw someone post that their car delivered in June with .3.102.6 and same-day updated to .4.18.x. An interesting datapoint along with all the other .3.x cars listing features from .4.x in their revision notes.
Here’s a report of 2021.3.103 getting an update day of delivery (German):
 

pepms

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There are 9 vehicles that updated from 2021.3.104 to 2021.32.5 according to teslafi
 

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Paul Rules

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Thanks @lonevvolf for pointing me here! Also have a MiC MY (in Germany), delivery 2 Sept 2021, still on 2021.3.104. I also show the 2021.4 as the "older" in my release notes history. Glad to see that it isn't just a MiC issue, but sorry that there are so many of us with the problem!
 

rjpjnk

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What does MiC mean?
My MY has been on 2021.3.104 since I bought it on July 22. Also shows 2021.4 as older in revision history.
 

bro1999

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I have 2021.3.104 since I got delivery my car 7/14. Service center told me my software up to date. On all questions when it will be update to new one, answer was- I DON'T KNOW, so I don't care anymore.
Also on 2021.3.104 since 29 July. OTA updates? what dat?
 

Rnldbmw

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Sep 21, 2021
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Same here. 2021.3.106.5 in Germany (M3 Performance, made in China). Never received an update and for some reason the release info for the software in my car is in french.
when I switch to English it’s in English and when I switch back to German it’s in french again. Very weird.

Other than that, they probably had to use alternative hardware due to the IC shortage nd are now working on merging the builds again.

They are already supporting many different hardware configurations in their main build so I think right now there is no real reason to expect 2021.3.10x cars to be permanently islanded.

Even if they were for some reason unable to merge the builds they could just roll the new features into the current build.

By the way, cars in Europe still have the radar sensor. Since we are also stuck on the same version as you guys, I don’t think it has anything to do with the vision only cars.
 

GOVA

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2021.3.106
MY, LR, No AP

Could use car wash mode, I guess. Netflix is super slow, that Intel Atom is crap, besides the rest is really great.
 
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Rnldbmw

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Sep 21, 2021
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Before I picked my car I was sick of checking the delivery date every day and now I am sick of checking for an update from 2021.3.104 every day!! I just need to wash my car and cancel the dimmer!!!
You don’t need the update to wash your car. You can’t be serious.
 

lonevvolf

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Nov 24, 2019
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Austria
I just had service by today to install the HomeLink hardware. I used the opportunity to ask about the software update status. Indeed, I confirmed that their system is showing 2021.4 installed, while my screen shows 2021.3. The tech tried to repush the whole version, which failed. Very strange - I hope we are not stuck.
 

rjpjnk

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Mar 12, 2021
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Same here. Tesla Service shows 2021.4 though car shows 2021.3.104.
It is possible this is our final software. No way to know what's in store, but they never promised to update all cars equally, right?

I think a lot of people will be pretty angry though if they are told their cars will never get the new features due to hardware constraints.
 

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