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are you his wife then?
scottrobertson
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So the real question is.... how does Tesla get away with this? Apparently only because all the other car manufacturers are so far behind on the things about Teslas that are actually good... If Elon just kept his mouth shut and only promised that the cars could do the things the cars can actually do -- which is already amazing enough without resorting to lies -- none of this would be a problem.
What is this, a criminal trial? The plain meaning of his statement is clear; he could have clarified as "V9 series of updates" or the like if he wanted to. If you are going to take this interpretation, you are basically excusing him for being intentionally (or at least irresponsibly/negligently) misleading.
Speaking of negligently misleading... see the SEC lawsuit and settlement. It's a habit with Elon. Maybe even an addiction.
I've been here too long to leave that one untouched... I think you mean in 3 months likely, 6 months definitely.
The release is going to non Early Access cars but only a few. This is how Tesla rolls out releases that have new features. Been seeing this show for almost 2 years with AP2 firmware.
scottrobertson
Member
Sure, but how do you know specifically .39 is the final release? Generally odd build numbers are early access only.
They listed v9.1/2, but more likely it’d be v9.0 2018.42/44/46/... That’s the way Tesla has done their version numbers for at least as long as I’ve had my car. Just like auto parking/wipers/etc didn’t come in any initial release. You can argue that they should change their versioning scheme/release schedule, but it’s not really misleading if you pay attention to how they release things.
Generally yes but new features drop on odd releases. We've seen it before. For example, when AEB was released in mid 2017 for AP2, it was initially released as a variant of an existing firmware branch to a small subset of owners and then packaged the next week into a wide release.
It just fits the pattern. I could easily be wrong but TeslaFi cars that aren't early access are getting it as 39.3. maybe this won't go to us but it's being readied.
Duuude the AP1 pitchfork crew used to point to this as the most concrete evidence AP2 sucks compared to AP1. I guess speed limit sign reading still remains....
And that seems to be a valid criticism. They really needed to mature the NN to achieve classification. Tesla managed with crap but it's better to have a capable system in place.
I remember how well 17.17.4 performed but it was so rudimentary.
2018.21 was the previous odd week general release. It allowed AP to show traffic in all adjacent lanes like AP1 does. Major stuff released after Elon mentioned it in a quarterly call.
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Oh without a doubt, a ton has matured since those days. 17.17.4 would frequently take cement grooves as lane markers around here, including suddenly snapping to them rather than the better defined lane lines it was following.
At any rate, I think a lot of us have been fondly remembering AP1. But even back in the 2018.2x parts of this year, AP1 loaners would consistently surprise me with not being able to follow local road curves, rapidly flickering car vs truck images, poorly rendering cars close by, etc.
Seems like since the March update, AP2’s been picking up steam. Drive On Nav aside, early adopters are consistently saying that AP2 is driving better in v9. That honestly excites me more.
Yeah that policy really blows and I wish they'd relax it at this point. They're at least not enforcing any minimum speed on lane changes anymore on AP2, which is significant.
dhanson865
Well-Known Member
Unassisted lane change. The new auto lane change but they used that jargon too soon and can't supplant it so we're left with ULC. ...
Mobster
Member
The sun rises on the Serengeti, a dog cries out in the vast , immeasurable wild. A giant flock of birds take flight from a Crumfum tree. In the tent we huddle around the 3.6 version app. The signal strength is strong. The Tesla sits in it's own tent with strong wifi and connected to a charging source. ....sigh.... No update yet for the Tesla. Our guide says he is sorry for us.....crestfallen we set out for the day ahead 
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.More and more of .36 on teslafi
And interestingly AP 2.5 has the most .36 versions.
And interestingly AP 2.5 has the most .36 versions.
Theflash95
Member
All of you folks who have gone to great lengths to set up logging for your Tesla's Wi-Fi usage crack me up... your update will come when it comes. Patience is a virtue.
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