Then don't drive the car as when you can't read that then you shouldn't be driving a car!
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Software update 2020.48.26.x update, font size problems
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- 2020.48.26 Model 3 Model S ui bug
Then don't drive the car as when you can't read that then you shouldn't be driving a car!
mikegre
Member
Gee, what's everyone complaining about? I can see the font clearly.
Reading fine fonts is not required for driving, and no one should have to use the readers to see an essential information like remaining range and gear selection
PatrickCH4313
Member
I cannot read the screen anymore. I was hoping that soon we’d be able to increase font size versus previously.
M3BlueGeorgia
Active Member
New UI layout on Model 3 has reduced the size of the speed display, so I can not read it with peripheral vision while looking at the road.
So I now have to actually focus on the screen to get my speed. ...which means taking my eyes off the road.
Dangerous !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So I now have to actually focus on the screen to get my speed. ...which means taking my eyes off the road.
Dangerous !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder if they changed the font size to make room for visualization that will come with FSD? Makes no sense to shrink it if you are not going to utilize the new free space.
I remember being in my 20s* and having no concept of what it was like not to be able to see small print clearly.
*20s - the likely age & demographic of Tesla's programmers
*20s - the likely age & demographic of Tesla's programmers
TomatoOne
Member
Nope, it's a completely pointless change. Those icons and text labels are located under the left and right widgets, so any potential space saved would not be used for FSD visualizations anyway.
TomatoOne
Member
Yup. UI folks tend to be young, and Elon does not seem to be wearing glasses. So it passed QA like that
DanCar
Active Member
Tesla is trying to encourage sale and use of FSD so you don't have to monitor your speed. /sarcasm
DanCar
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TomatoOne
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Except we don't actually have it yet, beta visuals aren't meant for daily use, and it does not look like they gained much by shrinking the labels. Look at these margins at the bottom (taken from a random Youtube video)
UI designers don't seem to use their designs in practice anymore. Everything is Smaller, have less contrast and they hide things. Thinking its "CLEANER". Its soooo "CLEAN" you can't see or find anything!
Which is UNACCEPTABLE when operating a vehicle.
Which is UNACCEPTABLE when operating a vehicle.
I definitely want to sit this one out if possible. I don't like the driving visualization taking up so much of the screen with much dead space, and don't like the speedometer being off centered in addition to it being smaller. And really don't want any more "stuff" in there that I never use (games or more farts )
I'm on 48.5 (Model 3), and it's been nagging me to update to 48.12 for couple of weeks now (hasn't actually been downloaded, I leave wifi disconnected at all times.) What I am concern with is what effects it might have if I skip several updates. Namely I don't want to risk the car getting factory reset as some have occasionally reported. Does each update contain all previous updates? Meaning if I continue to ignore 48.12, will it eventually prompt me to go straight to 48.2x from my current 48.5?
)I'm on 48.5 (Model 3), and it's been nagging me to update to 48.12 for couple of weeks now (hasn't actually been downloaded, I leave wifi disconnected at all times.) What I am concern with is what effects it might have if I skip several updates. Namely I don't want to risk the car getting factory reset as some have occasionally reported. Does each update contain all previous updates? Meaning if I continue to ignore 48.12, will it eventually prompt me to go straight to 48.2x from my current 48.5?
I'm definitely skipping this one, for as long as possible. I'm still on 48.5 and it's been prompting me to update to 48.12 for couple of weeks now which I've been ignoring.
I completely agree and came here to post the same thing.
The new @tesla UI in 2020.48.26 is a total UX disaster. A big step backwards in usability and appearance. Everything is crammed together, the information hierarchy is all wrong, there are numerous anti patterns with colour usage and moves important icons out of eyeline
The speedometer is the most important part of this section; Not the car graphics. Shrinking it down and moving it off centre is a huge step backwards. I found it very difficult to pick up in my normal driving eyeline. It is also NOT on the same level as Autopilot speed and status. The hierarchy here is all messed up.
Moving the battery to a monochrome display makes it hard to see. (This also touches on the use of colour point I made) Green is good, yellow is be aware and red is you need to charge. Grey is too neutral. Having it next to the region/power lines also pushes them off-centre.
There is a ton of dead space on the screen now on the upper left. All of this lends itself towards the really cramped feeling the cluster of icons has. The previous iteration was balanced. This is like someone (drunkly) threw UI elements at a dartboard
Whoever had the great idea to colour the “D” icon blue blue and put it right next to the headlight icon needs to review that decision. In your peripheral vision, it looks like your high beams are on as it is universal that high beams are shown as blue.
The auto hold icon (H) that comes on when you’re stopped in drive is an important safety confirmation that used to show at the top of the screen. It’s now hidden beneath my steering wheel at the bottom of that strip of icons on the side.
All of this to say, I love my car, I love the ability to get OTA updates but this one feels rushed out, tries to solve problems that don’t exist and causes me to take my eyes off the road way more than I’m comfortable with. I don't mind the larger car and road visualisation area, my problem exists with all the crap around that circled below.
The new @tesla UI in 2020.48.26 is a total UX disaster. A big step backwards in usability and appearance. Everything is crammed together, the information hierarchy is all wrong, there are numerous anti patterns with colour usage and moves important icons out of eyeline
The speedometer is the most important part of this section; Not the car graphics. Shrinking it down and moving it off centre is a huge step backwards. I found it very difficult to pick up in my normal driving eyeline. It is also NOT on the same level as Autopilot speed and status. The hierarchy here is all messed up.
Moving the battery to a monochrome display makes it hard to see. (This also touches on the use of colour point I made) Green is good, yellow is be aware and red is you need to charge. Grey is too neutral. Having it next to the region/power lines also pushes them off-centre.
There is a ton of dead space on the screen now on the upper left. All of this lends itself towards the really cramped feeling the cluster of icons has. The previous iteration was balanced. This is like someone (drunkly) threw UI elements at a dartboard
Whoever had the great idea to colour the “D” icon blue blue and put it right next to the headlight icon needs to review that decision. In your peripheral vision, it looks like your high beams are on as it is universal that high beams are shown as blue.
The auto hold icon (H) that comes on when you’re stopped in drive is an important safety confirmation that used to show at the top of the screen. It’s now hidden beneath my steering wheel at the bottom of that strip of icons on the side.
All of this to say, I love my car, I love the ability to get OTA updates but this one feels rushed out, tries to solve problems that don’t exist and causes me to take my eyes off the road way more than I’m comfortable with. I don't mind the larger car and road visualisation area, my problem exists with all the crap around that circled below.
bobby g
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Yup. UI folks tend to be young, and Elon does not seem to be wearing glasses. So it passed QA like that
Guessing contacts
IronCoffee_Max
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My belief is that this UI redesign is a scaffolding for newer features coming next year. Yes, product managers sometimes will create UI redesigns just for change sake (to make it feel “fresh”), but more often it comes as a pre-cursor to a roadmap that requires it.
I like aspects of the new redesign, and others I don’t. I expect to see two things in 2021 just based on my experience in the software industry:
I like aspects of the new redesign, and others I don’t. I expect to see two things in 2021 just based on my experience in the software industry:
- Refinement of the redesign
- New features that explain the reason for the change
Definitely smaller, but for my surgically corrected late 30s eyes I actually prefer the updated layout. To me the smaller font allows quick glances allowing a more natural scan of information blocks.
I do agree that having a setting which would allow font size to be changed would be a good idea.
I do agree that having a setting which would allow font size to be changed would be a good idea.
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