Georgesb2
George Borrelli
If the noise varies by the day, I would think that seals are the issue. You moved the window tighter and move the door tighter? Did you try to test where exactly the noise is coming from?
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rincewind
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It's coming from the top of the drivers window. I've tried putting paper between the window and the seal and it's a really tight fit, although the seal itself is not totally unirorm in shape in that area. I've put black rubber tubing in all the areas suggested on here, blocking possible areas of doubt, put the noise seal all around the glass roof area and also installed secondary door, frunk and boot seals. The lease expires on 8th December so I'm not bothered now. Looking at other EV's.
Georgesb2
George Borrelli
Yup, that's where my wind noise came from, top of the driver's window. Also sometimes the passenger side window at the top, same place, same issue.
I vaguely recall when the double-paned front windows came out that someone measured them or tried them and the conclusion was they can be retro-fitted. I remember at the time thinking if I go to Safelite, could I get them to order them, as if I broke my side windows? But then people tested the sound levels and couldn't discern any difference, so I decided not to try to order the windows.
From what I know about Tesla they rarely if ever allow for retrofit to be done by Tesla.
And they install costumer supplied parts.
Nor will they sell parts that don't match the VIN.
So anyone here reading this thread with a car that didn't come with double panned glass that wants to buy the glass from Tesla, you would first need to find someone that already have a car with that glass and have them call Tesla Parts and order it.
Once you obtain the part, you will need to either install it yourself or find a willing 3rd party to install it with.
Imo this is money left on table, I'd love to get retrofit to whatever new stuff Tesla comes up with whenever possible, so heatpump/octovalve/4680 structural pack/rear mega cast I probably can't get but refreshed center console, refreshed door trim, refreshed 2023 rear tail lights ... yeah sign me up. And don't tell me its not cost effective, their tech is already trained on installing most if not all of it, yes they should prioritize / triage people with actual problems over elective appointments but ... they can also just charge more, queue is flexible? add in more elective, queue is fully booked? sorry break fix only, also, they can tell you if you want to install X you can do so at location Y which maybe 100 miles away as that's where its less busy at the time... but what do I know
Wind noise, rattles, nvh are not a function of build date or model year/month. Its a streak of luck whether a particular unit has or develops issues.
Frameless windows combined with modern weather stripping/gaskets will eventually not seal well so its just a matter of time.
Frameless windows combined with modern weather stripping/gaskets will eventually not seal well so its just a matter of time.
Well that’s not what I said… 5-10 years from now so at that point there will be model 3s 10-15 years old.
My story is boring. I had wind noise emanating from the left passenger window. I mentioned it on two service visits but nothing. I finally got tired of it and was having a road trip coming up. So I scheduled a service visit JUST for the wind noise. They found it and fixed it for about $80 but wanted a separate visit to replace the gasket for like $350+. My problem was fixed and I just canceled the second visit.
Most of this problem was convincing Tesla to do it.
Most of this problem was convincing Tesla to do it.
And you'll just buy 6 new gaskets (4 doors, frunk + trunk) for $100 and be done with it?
rincewind
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And you'll just buy 6 new gaskets (4 doors, frunk + trunk) for $100 and be done with it?
I did that on my last car, it helped but then the window itself was out of alignment so I had to replace the whole mechanisms to get a tight seal. I’m not saying it’s not fixable but it’s a dumb problem to have regardless.
Georgesb2
George Borrelli
What's interesting, I've made a number of adjustments. The wind noise in the driver and passenger's windows decreased a lot. But then for some reasons can come back. I see a correlation. If I leave the windows vented, which I often do, it comes back. That indicates to me that there's something with the rubber compound. Unless someone has other ideas....
When y’all are setting in your cars, AC OFF, windows shut and you try to close your already closed windows one by one, do they all make same sound? My front passenger window moves a little more than the rest but then goes back down when releasing the button.
It’s water tight even during pressure wash but in highway if I hold the button up … there’s ever so slightly less wind noise
At this point, after three years of ownership, and especially after driving a new model y with double panned glass which is unbelievably quieter, I have completely thrown the towel on making it any better as the summery of this entire thread is:
Those mods you can do / buy as kits either do nothing or hardly nothing at all, and even gutting the entire car and covering the metal with sound deadening hardly moves the needle
Missing something?
It’s water tight even during pressure wash but in highway if I hold the button up … there’s ever so slightly less wind noise
At this point, after three years of ownership, and especially after driving a new model y with double panned glass which is unbelievably quieter, I have completely thrown the towel on making it any better as the summery of this entire thread is:
Those mods you can do / buy as kits either do nothing or hardly nothing at all, and even gutting the entire car and covering the metal with sound deadening hardly moves the needle
Missing something?
rincewind
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No. I've done the secondary seals, roof seal, new window seal, Tesla adjusted the window angle. None of it made a tiny bit of difference.
It’s just the vehicle design. Go drive a new Hyundai Sonata and be amazed.
High frequency EV drivetrain noise just exacerbates the annoyance of wind and road noise.
Could I request a model 3 owner record the sound of their vehicle interior while parked, HVAC off? Record the screen, under the steering wheel, etc. anywhere that system noises might intrude into the cabin. I wonder if this is contributing at all.
High frequency EV drivetrain noise just exacerbates the annoyance of wind and road noise.
Could I request a model 3 owner record the sound of their vehicle interior while parked, HVAC off? Record the screen, under the steering wheel, etc. anywhere that system noises might intrude into the cabin. I wonder if this is contributing at all.
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