First of all, I think your idea of who Tesla is as a company is strongly mistaken. There is a constant massive R&D project taking place to advance AI, that's the bulk of this and the push for FSD. The value is primarily in the software and technology, while creating an alternative more sustainable energy source. It's amusing that reading a few 'like-minded' posts about seat heaters being moved results in a failing car company. These Swiss cheese arguments have to stop, use facts if you're going to reference percentages and figures. It's pretty impressive if you actually look at the figures. Tesla may have produced less cars but it's market value is destroying the competition. Please elaborate on the trend you're referencing... or are we just saying 'I'm angry about v11 and so are 5 other people on this message board, so this company is really in trouble now...' Come on dude... it's ok if you don't like it, there's plenty I'm sure other people don't like about their ICE car. Plus, we probably need a definition of "Young Drivers" because the Atari/Nintendo/Sega crowd are now in their 40s, are tech savvy and likely have means to purchase a Tesla.UI, by itself, will not have such big impact. The trend is concerning. I have not seen any evidence that Tesla is most attuned to the young customers. Do not confuse early adopters, who are usually younger, with the general population. Also, Tesla cars are not necessarily low cost - something that most young drivers could afford.
Tesla now is a different company than it was 5yrs ago. It is not a secret that its valuation is based on expectation not current capabilities. If you look at the number of cars they produce and sell, they are a tiny percentage of what the “big guys” do.
If anything happens it will not be because of the UI itself. Absent alternatives, UI will hardly be a trigger. The trend, however, will create a resentment buildup. Those things take time but, once they start, unravel pretty quickly. Don’t get me wrong, it is very unlikely that Tesla will disappear but this trend will definitely get in a way of them becoming a mass market company.
Here is a Marketing 101 question: Who is their target customer? EV person? FSD person? Gamer? Environmentalist? Enthusiastic driver? Person who wants low maintenance car? “All of the above” is not an answer
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You said that right. You must be reading my mail. Small change got rained on with his own thirty-eight........
Yes, we completely fail to realize...only you and your anti v11 clique are in the know and harbor all the knowledge...please help us...
The general consensus I've seen is that Tesla is drastically overvalued. If you look at traditional metrics like Price to earnings ratio and compare that to any other car company it's drastically overvalued. There are other metrics and people will correctly point out that Tesla's sales have been skyrocketing, so the metrics may change, but it's not unreasonable to be concerned or suspicious of tesla's stock price.First of all, I think your idea of who Tesla is as a company is strongly mistaken. There is a constant massive R&D project taking place to advance AI, that's the bulk of this and the push for FSD. The value is primarily in the software and technology, while creating an alternative more sustainable energy source. It's amusing that reading a few 'like-minded' posts about seat heaters being moved results in a failing car company. These Swiss cheese arguments have to stop, use facts if you're going to reference percentages and figures. It's pretty impressive if you actually look at the figures. Tesla may have produced less cars but it's market value is destroying the competition. Please elaborate on the trend you're referencing... or are we just saying 'I'm angry about v11 and so are 5 other people on this message board, so this company is really in trouble now...' Come on dude... it's ok if you don't like it, there's plenty I'm sure other people don't like about their ICE car. Plus, we probably need a definition of "Young Drivers" because the Atari/Nintendo/Sega crowd are now in their 40s, are tech savvy and likely have means to purchase a Tesla.
Tesla market cap eclipses that of top 5 rival carmakers combined
Tesla Inc surpassed $1 trillion in market value on Monday, overshadowing the combined value of five of its biggest rivals, Toyota Motor Corp , Volkswagen AG , Daimler AG , Ford Motor Co and General Motors .
Educate yourself before making these kinds of statements... From the article below: “Tesla, born in Silicon Valley, never outsourced their software — they write their own code,” said Morris Cohen, a professor emeritus at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania who specializes in manufacturing and logistics. “They rewrote the software so they could replace chips in short supply with chips not in short supply. The other carmakers were not able to do that.”
Why Tesla Soared as Other Automakers Struggled to Make Cars
The yawning disparity between the performance of the electric car company and established automakers last year reflects the technological change roiling the industry.www.nytimes.com
Lastly, for your "Expert Marketing 101" comment, before you even go there, please tell the crowd what Tesla's marketing budget is... how much advertising do they do again? Please... inform... (Hint: read below)
Tesla Invests Most On R&D Among Rivals, Least On Advertising
Telse invests about the same amount on R&D per car as the next three automakers combined. Meanwhile, those automakers spend plenty per vehicle on marketing.
To answer your question... None of the above, take the red pill
My first reaction is negative. And no, it's not because it is different. The UI has had a few changes over past year and each one seemed better. This one is a step backwards in terms of driver friendly. The most glaring issue, the battery level at destination and supercharger stops much harder to find. These are absolutely KEY things to know during a trip and they are no longer prominent. Big step backward. Other issues, but that's the biggie in my mind and it's not trivial oh just get used to it.... It's worse than before period.After playing around with this for two days, I'm really starting to like the new UI. Actually, pretty surprised by so many negative comments here, to me its very intuitive. I think we're getting a view of the direction they're going in, I don't see it bad at all. It's not the perfect start, but I can see that this could get really good with some future additions. Maybe people are jumping too fast to conclusions, but man there's some high negativity going on here. You certainly can't satisfy everyone. Some points:
I've heard comments about losing the slide cards and people can't find the tire pressures. This is just absurd to me, I hated those slide cards.....I always hit them wrong, something else came up, I can't understand why this is the most important thing to complain about. What car leaves your tire pressures easily accessible with one button hit? So now it's two buttons,.....so you hit the two buttons at a stop light, you shouldn't be checking tire pressures while driving anyhow.
So many people complaining about turning the wipers on.....this is so simple, hit the stalk for one swipe, and the pop up control is right there......
I know Tidal came in before this UI, but I'm really liking this now. Cars don't come with CD players anymore, with Tidal I can get CD quality without the player. So, yes, you have to download at your home over WiFi, how is that different than remembering what CD's to bring into your car? I've been in the garage playing with Tidal, you can easily download any album you like. I have no idea how much memory I'm wiping out, but so far I've downloaded about 12 albums in hifi with no issues, as well as multiple play lists. Plus Tidal is already creating custom mixes for me over my WiFi....it's pretty cool actually. The sound quality is awesome.
People are complaining about the 4 icon limit at the bottom panel.....but this is a great start. Put down there what each user wants. In the future they need to increase it beyond 4, as well as open up other tools to icons, but they've moved in this direction and I like it. It can only get better.
People are complaining about the lack of the garage door opener control. I'm thinking they just haven't looked much....you turn into your driveway, it's right on the bottom, in much larger icons. I often hit the wrong door button in the previous versions....I like this, I'm all thumbs. If the turn signal blind spot camera blocks those icons, the home button is still at the top....big deal?
People have complained about the music controls....I'm loving them actually. If you're using Tidal now, just hit the dropdown menu on the "Tidal" and you get every option, totally intuitive. Love the subwoofer separate control also. Would love them to eventually add Apple Music, but now doing lossless with Tidal, not sure I'd like Apple Music as much, I suspect their lossless music has to download over WiFi too.
People have complained they can't find the superchargers on the navigation map.....it's easy, right on the navigation search bar.....it seems to be much easier to touch that with a larger icon while you're driving. I always had problems touching the screen smaller icon while driving, this is safer. Also, the list of superchargers lists the kW speed right on the navigation bar now, much easier than touching the icon on the map to see the speeds.
People bitching about the appearance of the icons......come on, this is getting silly. At least we have icons, I love that they're easier to see now with color contrasts.
I could go on and on.......but it's true those who are unhappy are most likely to post on social media. Maybe I'm in the silent majority?? Get a grip on reality, people driving other OEM cars can only dream of the stuff everyone is complaining about here.
Okay, I'm ready for a good beating now.
The auto-sensing wipers were one of two things I have hated on my Model 3 right from the get-go three years ago. They never work like they should. Just yesterday evening I was driving through the rain, constantly changing conditions, from slight but annoying drizzle that immediately filled the screen after every wipe, to heavy downpour, to almost nothing. Always changing. The Auto setting did not react appropriately at any time, but keeping it constantly at level 2 or 3 was also no option. In the end I had to more or less press the button on the stalk manually whenever necessary for the entire drive. Really annoying.
Theranos was vapor and only greedy fools put their money into that. Tesla has and is delivering. As you mentioned, Tesla has suffered growing pains and people wont put up with it forever but how come brands with over 100 years building cars still have issues like quality yet people still buy them. People will still buy Tesla too. The Tesla wave isn't going to collapse because of a clique that doesn't like v11.
This would definitely explain what I experienced. But there is more…
Nailed it, only one thing I would say differently… “The Tesla wave isn't going to collapse because of a SMALL clique that doesn't like v11.”
If people weren't snapping up current lineup Teslas quicker than they can make them, with hundreds of thousands of people waiting for a CT, thousands of businesses eagerly awaiting the Semi, tens of thousands (myself included) awaiting Powerwalls and solar roof/panels, then you may have a point, Tesla would be in danger!
So what actually is keeping you from selling your car? What do you like about it?
Wow, you can't argue cold hard facts...but you know they are trawling the internet for anything to try! Perhaps try ihatev11.com for some unbiased opinion? LOLFirst of all, I think your idea of who Tesla is as a company is strongly mistaken. There is a constant massive R&D project taking place to advance AI, that's the bulk of this and the push for FSD. The value is primarily in the software and technology, while creating an alternative more sustainable energy source. It's amusing that reading a few 'like-minded' posts about seat heaters being moved results in a failing car company. These Swiss cheese arguments have to stop, use facts if you're going to reference percentages and figures. It's pretty impressive if you actually look at the figures. Tesla may have produced less cars but it's market value is destroying the competition. Please elaborate on the trend you're referencing... or are we just saying 'I'm angry about v11 and so are 5 other people on this message board, so this company is really in trouble now...' Come on dude... it's ok if you don't like it, there's plenty I'm sure other people don't like about their ICE car. Plus, we probably need a definition of "Young Drivers" because the Atari/Nintendo/Sega crowd are now in their 40s, are tech savvy and likely have means to purchase a Tesla.
Tesla market cap eclipses that of top 5 rival carmakers combined
Tesla Inc surpassed $1 trillion in market value on Monday, overshadowing the combined value of five of its biggest rivals, Toyota Motor Corp , Volkswagen AG , Daimler AG , Ford Motor Co and General Motors .
Educate yourself before making these kinds of statements... From the article below: “Tesla, born in Silicon Valley, never outsourced their software — they write their own code,” said Morris Cohen, a professor emeritus at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania who specializes in manufacturing and logistics. “They rewrote the software so they could replace chips in short supply with chips not in short supply. The other carmakers were not able to do that.”
Why Tesla Soared as Other Automakers Struggled to Make Cars
The yawning disparity between the performance of the electric car company and established automakers last year reflects the technological change roiling the industry.
Lastly, for your "Expert Marketing 101" comment, before you even go there, please tell the crowd what Tesla's marketing budget is... how much advertising do they do again? Please... inform... (Hint: read below)
Tesla Invests Most On R&D Among Rivals, Least On Advertising
Telse invests about the same amount on R&D per car as the next three automakers combined. Meanwhile, those automakers spend plenty per vehicle on marketing.
To answer your question... None of the above, take the red pill
Why 2 hands?? I can only assume you mean one to press the button on the stalk and the other hand to hit the button on the mini screen? Your left hand doesn't leave the wheel (one finger does), so effectively you only need one hand to perform this operation.
These are the hard-hitting questions… answers? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
LOL. Now you've jumped the
