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I say NET March 31, if everything goes as planned.
Currently $100 million, which is about the same as a Falcon Heavy for twice the payload. Once they get into production and are reusing vehicles, they hope to get the cost down to about $10 million. What the price to customers will be is anyone's guess.Does anyone estimate how expensive each launch costs?
I say NET March 31, if everything goes as planned.
Does anyone estimate how expensive each launch costs?
I think SpaceX will be able to make a profit of more than an order of magnitude times their launch cost, if they can achieve that goal of $10 million per launch.What the price to customers will be is anyone's guess.
A buddy and I were talking about what the ITF's are costing... as you point out there's obviously R&D costs... and I assume there's more cost than a what normal "operational" launch would likely be due to significantly more telemetry gathering/analysis, monitoring, etc... Subtracting those and the fized costs associated with fuel, GSE, etc.... I wonder what the actual hardware costs are?Little pedantic on this one, but this statement says: 'I think SX's baseline plan is a 4.5 month turnaround.'
While I do think it could take that long to actually launch (and that's probably what you're saying)--and of course there's zero credibility to anything that comes out of SX regarding development timelines (I should have put more context into my earlier post)--SX definitely thinks they can launch before then and they likely will launch before then.
It's really difficult to put a cost number on these launches because they're all wrapped up in R&D bookkeeping, and then on top of that there's the nebulous SX methodology in sharing R&D costs, and then of course on top of that there's the fact that they don't actually have to report any costs because they're not a public company so they can bookkeep however they want and tell us whatever they want about dollars and cents.
There are less than confirmed reports that the cost is somewhere around $100M. Ostensibly that's the recurring cost of a launch and includes the actual rocket hardware being used (engines, etc), the propellant, staffing, etc. But...because its R&D mode that number really isn't super useful because it stand on the back of hundreds of millions of dollars of work and is going to be perpetually improved on the back of hundreds of millions more dollars of development.
Price is much easier as its a known number...you just need a quote to know the number.
Employee costs are probably the lion's share right now. SpaceX employs 1,800 people at Starbase, with jobs ranging from a Laser Technician at $42,000 to a Principal Software Engineer at $178,000. Tack on 30% for benefits (excluding stock). How many of that number are dedicated to stack construction, testing and operation, but neither infrastructure development nor technology research and development?Could a Starship stack be $25mil in terms of cost to build?
That is the maximum allowed for the Starbase facility in a year. 12 is it, unless they change the rules.NSF believes that B10/S28 are planned to be used for IFT-3. But B11 is on the engine installation stand in the MegaBay and S29 is also pretty far along. B12 is also in the MegaBay and S30 and S31 are nearly complete.
That’s a lot of hardware! Wouldn’t it be great to see a Starship launch every month in 2024?
If SpaceX could do 12 test flights next year they could make a tremendous amount of progress. At this point, I think the next flight is likely to result in booster and ship landing attempts; if not that flight then very likely the next one and all subsequent ones. Later in the year they could send one or two ships around the moon and back (without crew) and, if they really want to push it, send a ship to Mars just to see if they can at least do the burn to put it in Mars orbit.That is the maximum allowed for the Starbase facility in a year. 12 is it, unless they change the rules.
Where does that 12 number come from?That is the maximum allowed for the Starbase facility in a year. 12 is it, unless they change the rules.
I don’t think anyone really knows yet. NASA let a small contract to four industry partners to come up with on orbit refueling concepts a couple of years ago. SpaceX will have to engineer something for their depots. It might involve active cooling with energy from solar panels. Certainly the JWST showed how you can super cool something in space for an extended period of time.How long can these cryogenic liquids stay liquid without boiling off when in space?
To add to @Cosmacelf's answer, I'll add a point of reference: the James Web Space Telescope is sitting at a Lagrange point with a sunshield, and the mirrors remain at 55K. Oxygen stays liquid between 54K and 90K. Methane is 91K to 112K. So if you can isolate from energy coming from Sun, Earth and Moon, you're in pretty good shape.How long can these cryogenic liquids stay liquid without boiling off when in space?