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[Speculation] Base Model 3 to have over 240 mile range

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It makes logical sense for the base model to be at least 240 miles, so as to best the Chevy Bolt, considering Musk tweeted it would.
For me, it's disingenuous for the 70/75 kWh battery to be better, since it's no longer in the same price bracket.
His tweet was something like "Oh so little faith" in response to the question, "Please tell me the Model 3 offers more range than the Chevy Bolt". He never said the base Model 3 would get a higher EPA rating for miles per charge than the Bolt. That could just as well be interpreted to mean one should have faith that Tesla will offer an option that will exceed the Bolt's range if that's what's important to you. Not saying it couldn't happen with the base battery; just that you shouldn't pin your hopes on it meaning something that may not have been intended. The only official number so far is 215 miles.
 
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Assuming a range of at least 300 miles based on this:
Tesla Model 3: new picture of interface shows range could go up to 300 miles

60/75 = 0.8
0.8 * 300 = 240

Consider the substantial weight saving, so may get over 250 miles

The S75D gets 259 miles & the S90D got 294 miles
Tesla Model S - Wikipedia

I think the formula will be more like:
300 * (55/75)= 220 miles.
More consistent with the 215+ number for the base model 3 and with the calculations made by several members of this forum about the possible battery sizes.
 
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From the context it said that a source claimed the base model will come with 60 kWh.

I figure the Model 3 will get somewhere between 4.1 to 4.3 miles / kWh so based on Elon's tweet alone I'm going to say that it'll likely be 240-250 miles of range. It's still just speculation until July though.

Logically it makes sense that he was talking about the base model unless the battery update is only $2000 in which case it'd be about the same price as the bolt.
 
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Luckily (unluckily?), some blogspam site ripped the entire article and it's still up here. I'll copy-paste it here, though:

Tesla CEO Elon Musk has approved an increase in budget of $216M into automating the Model 3 battery module production line at Gigafactory 1, following a 2017 capex meeting held at the company’s Fremont, California factory on Wednesday, May 24. According to our source, the first battery modules for Model 3 test vehicles are being hand-built by a team 150 employees over a 24 hour shift. The source tells Teslarati via Teslanomics (video below) that it takes approximately 10 minutes to complete 1 section of a battery module with 2 employees moving 2170 lithium ion battery cells from a box and into the battery module. There are a total of 7 sections in each battery module. The manual production has been taking place for “several months now” according to our source, who says Tesla is currently building approximately 20 Model 3 battery modules per day by hand.

The newly approved $216M investment will automate this process which according to our source will take roughly 10 seconds to produce by robots. According to a release sent by Tesla:

Details on the Model 3 Battery Production Line capital expenditure:

Model 3 Battery Module Lines 1, 2 and 3 are capacitized to produce 5,000 cars/week by running parallel at 61 second ideal cycle time (TAKT) time operated at 75% overall equipment efficiency (OEE). The current overall budget for the equipment is $216.0M. The budget is allocated to:

  • Current Collector Feeder Line: $13.0M
  • Cell Handling: $19.2M
  • Cell to Tube Attach (CTA): $30.7M
  • Mount Attach Module Close (MAMC): $22.0M
  • Current Collector Clamshell Attach (C3A): $27.5M
  • Cell Position Mapping (CPM): $2.8M
  • Interconnect: $20.8M
  • Interconnect: $5.0M
  • Module Test: $1.1M
  • Buffering & Conveyance: $29.4M
  • Module Configuration: $42.5M
  • Controls Contractors: $2.0M
Tesla’s automated production line will be capable of producing over 4,000 battery modules per day. It’s worth noting that the battery modules being built are “specific to the Model 3” says our source and separate from the 2170 modules used in Tesla’s Powerwall 2 and Powerpack 2 energy products. Tesla is building three separate module lines at this time, which run in parallel to produce a battery module every 61 seconds. Tesla’s Model S and X 100kWh battery pack distributes 8,256 18650 battery cells across 16 modules while the Model 3 will utilize only 4 modules containing the larger and higher energy density 2170 lithium ion cell.

According to our source, the base Model 3, as of now, will start at 60kWh. This capacity comes in higher than what we original expected and should deliver more range than Tesla had originally announced. Tesla is reportedly concentrating on the production of the premium battery at first, which is slated to be 74kWh.