[Speculation] Model 3 0.237 kwh/mile!

[JeffK]

Have we mentioned on this thread that the 400 kWh free yields 400 kWh / 0.237 kWh/mi = nearly 1687.8 miles of free long distance travel

(probably a little less at highway speeds... but still)

 

[JeffK]

I was thinking of supercharging. Fewer cells is a higher C rate per cell. So the max rate for the pack is less. Perhaps I'm thinking about it wrong.

Nah, fewer cells but larger capacity each... max for the pack should be the same.

 

[ikjadoon]

What is the deal with TMC and "moot"? Soon you will be spreading your word problems to iceland and beyond.

Heh, keep your "problems" to yourself, ;p

Do you prefer the Oxford English Dictionary?

moot
ADJECTIVE

1. Subject to debate, dispute, or uncertainty.

whether the temperature rise was mainly due to the greenhouse effect was a moot point’

2. Having little or no practical relevance.

the whole matter is becoming increasingly moot"

Or the Cambridge Dictionary?

moot
adjective
UK /muːt/ US /muːt/
1. discussed or argued about but having no definite answer:

It's a moot point whether building more roads reduces traffic congestion.

2 .not important or not relevant, therefore not worth discussing:

We don't have enough money to go, so it's all moot anyway.

Or Merriam-Webster if you prefer American?

moot
adjective \ˈmüt\
Definition of moot

1. 1a : open to question : debatableb : subjected to discussion : disputed
   
   
2. 2: deprived of practical significance : made abstract or purely academic

Go explain to your English teacher (or, more likely, a cute blog that complained about it to get pageclicks) how to use a dictionary.

 

[JeffK]

Debating what moot point means is a moot point.

 

[electracity]

I don't know about in Iceland, but in the US the definition you give for "moot" has evolved to something potentially debatable for theoretical or academic purposes, but for which there is no practical application of the resolution. That is, if a point is moot, that means you could debate it, there's just no reason to.

I feel English is messed up enough without making a word its own antonym. Perhaps covfefe could work?

 

[electracity]

Debating what moot point means is a moot point.

Exactly.

The real problem is that is takes time from discussing HUD in the model 3.

 

[ikjadoon]

I feel English is messed up enough without making a word its own antonym. Perhaps covfefe could work?

You'd think; I'm willing to switch out "moot" for "covfefe".

 

[LargeHamCollider]

Have we mentioned on this thread that the 400 kWh free yields 400 kWh / 0.237 kWh/mi = nearly 1687.8 miles of free long distance travel

(probably a little less at highway speeds... but still)

I don't think that M3 will get 400kWh/year free. That will be a differentiator for the S/X.

 

[SageBrush]

Tesla charges the end user 8 cents per minute under 60 kWh so assuming higher than 1C charge rate it's < 8 cents per kWh plus the 400 kWh free so it's really going to be pretty awesome.

60 kW separates the tiers, not 60 kWh

 

[JeffK]

60 kW separates the tiers, not 60 kWh

Ah yes, that's right. Luckily I shouldn't personally go over the free allotment.

 

[dhanson865]

Debating what moot point means is a moot point.

I'm surprised no one beat me to quoting friends.

"It's all a moo point"
"a moo point?"
"yeah, It's like a cows opinion, it just, doesn't matter."

 

[SageBrush]

Ah yes, that's right. Luckily I shouldn't personally go over the free allotment.

For all those owners that have a charge base at home the charges at the SC are very likely to be a rounding error part of car ownership costs.

Amazing how much ink has been spilled over this.

 

[JeffK]

Most of us had our reservations before we found out supercharging wasn't free. I wonder if they will address that at all tonight. Gift for early reservations?

 

[kbM3]

when some of these people keep saying faster to charge they keep neglecting to mention only if you measure in miles/minute.


Here in Indy if they are able to pull 50 kW minimum:

I did forget to specify miles per minute. However, if you think about it, that is really the only metric that matters.

 

[kbM3]

Have we mentioned on this thread that the 400 kWh free yields 400 kWh / 0.237 kWh/mi = nearly 1687.8 miles of free long distance travel

(probably a little less at highway speeds... but still)

I have wondered if they will reduce the number of free kilowatt hours because of the model three being more efficient.

 

[SageBrush]

I did forget to specify miles per minute. However, if you think about it, that is really the only metric that matters.

Yep.
I use 120 mile jumps between SCs, so a 6 mile/min charge rate works out to 20 minute stops every 100 minutes or so, for an average trip speed of 60 mph after the home charge is used up.

 

[GeekGirls]

It'd be amazing if the M3 is as efficient as the i3 without resorting to those silly wheels the i3 uses. They're the reason I just couldn't buy one.

We got a spectacular deal on the lease and it's a perfectly fine short-distance good weather city car. In severe winds, on rough roads, or in driving rain, though? I feel rather less comfortable driving it and agree the Model 3 is a more compelling alternative. That's why we have a reservation we expect around the time our lease runs out.

 

[MP3Mike]

Most of us had our reservations before we found out supercharging wasn't free.

But most of us had our reservations before we found out Supercharging was free. Oh wait, it never was.

 

[diamond.g]

So now that we know the range, how close was the leaked numbers?

 

[JeffK]

So now that we know the range, how close was the leaked numbers?

very...
310 * 0.237 = 73.47 kWh