TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker and becoming a Supporting Member. For more info: Support TMC
Start a Discussionhttps://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/tags/

[Speculation] Web Browser removal from Model S/X?

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by verygreen, Aug 28, 2017.

  1. verygreen

    verygreen Curious member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2017
    Messages:
    1,164
    Location:
    TN
    Scared? Why?

    So I've been researching something else and then realized that I've never seen seen anybody mentioning web browser in the M3. I even did a google search only to arrive at this discussion: No web browser in Model 3, would you really care? • r/teslamotors
    (those of you who have been at various Model 3 events can chime in with you experience trying to start one).

    I know Elon promised updated Web Browser some time ago, but what if the plan is just to dispose of it completely, would you really care?
    Is it just the terrible browser available now that makes you not use it and do you think if the browser was top-notch you would use it?

    Do you think lack of browser in M3 is just because they are working overtime on a better version and did not want to include the old one?
     
  2. CalBlue 85D

    CalBlue 85D Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2016
    Messages:
    235
    Location:
    SF Bay Area
    I would miss it because it is very useful for A Better Routeplanner

    A Better Routeplanner

    Other than that, I don't have any use for it.
     
    • Like x 1
  3. Gwgan

    Gwgan Almost a wagon

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2013
    Messages:
    1,566
    Location:
    Maine
    Waze, weather, wind are handy bits of info but I suppose I could just use my phone since that is safer.
     
  4. ShockOnT

    ShockOnT ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2016
    Messages:
    1,437
    Location:
    Sydney
    Never been on Aussie cars. Would be nice but not essential.
     
  5. boaterva

    boaterva Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2016
    Messages:
    2,884
    Location:
    Northern Virginia, USA
    I would say for any app I really wanted to use, I'd use my phone, which will be mounted close to me anyway. I use EVTO-Tesla, but any phone app or other webapp will work better on a current smartphone than on the MCU. Rather leave it clear for the rear camera, and maybe the 'backup' nav, for SuC occupancy, etc.
     
  6. Rockster

    Rockster Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2013
    Messages:
    1,180
    Location:
    McKinney, TX
    The problem here is that it WOULD be useful if it didn't suck. By creating a browser that sucks horribly Tesla has conditioned us to be unconcerned about its potential removal. That's sad.
     
    • Like x 2
  7. boaterva

    boaterva Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2016
    Messages:
    2,884
    Location:
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Part of the issue is, if it worked really well, what would happen to the bandwidth usage? They might have to break out browser usage as a separate item somehow. People would be streaming movies, and who knows what...
     
    • Like x 1
  8. verygreen

    verygreen Curious member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2017
    Messages:
    1,164
    Location:
    TN
    If they don't include flash and web video extension people would not be streaming video or audio from the browser so it would not be a concern.
     
  9. boaterva

    boaterva Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2016
    Messages:
    2,884
    Location:
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Right, I was assuming they made it a 'real' browser, but there are many steps from now to there. :D
     
  10. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    16,131
    I think your title is incorrect. You can't remove something that was never present.
     
  11. verygreen

    verygreen Curious member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2017
    Messages:
    1,164
    Location:
    TN
    It is present in S/X and I am posting this in S subforum pondering if browser removal on S/X is also in the plans.
     
  12. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    16,131
    Ah, well referencing at least one of the two vehicles (Model S or X) would have helped. Also, you should use the work Speculation and put a question mark. Something like "[Speculation] Web Browser removal from Model S/X?" Otherwise, it's confusing and/or click bait.
     
  13. verygreen

    verygreen Curious member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2017
    Messages:
    1,164
    Location:
    TN
    hm, too late to change it now.
     
  14. HankLloydRight

    HankLloydRight Fluxing

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2014
    Messages:
    8,377
    Location:
    Connecticut
    I think the chances are as follows:

    90% Same browser, never significantly updated* or removed
    9% Updated browser**
    1% Browser removed

    * This means they might update the existing browser codebase, but it's still going to suck.
    ** Native browser like Chromium
     
  15. verygreen

    verygreen Curious member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2017
    Messages:
    1,164
    Location:
    TN
    Since there was a waterfall of the features from Model 3 to S/X, do you think the browser would be one of the things just not available on 3 as a differentiator then?
     
  16. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    16,131
    Looks like an elf (or gremlin) took care of it. Thanks, elf!

    Anyway, sorry to be nitpicky but we often have confusion around here (TMC) a lot when things aren't clearly labelled.
     
  17. HankLloydRight

    HankLloydRight Fluxing

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2014
    Messages:
    8,377
    Location:
    Connecticut
    No, I just think they don't care. It's not a big enough of an issue to bother with much less call out as a differentiator.
     
  18. jeffro01

    jeffro01 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2013
    Messages:
    1,808
    Location:
    SF Bay Area
    That's a tough one... I rarely use it for obvious reasons but when I do need it, it's a very nice to have...

    Jeff
     
  19. Skotty

    Skotty 2014 Model S P85

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2013
    Messages:
    2,023
    Location:
    Kansas City, MO
    #19 Skotty, Aug 29, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2017
    I would actually use it a ton if it didn't feel like trying to use dial up AOL over a 1200 baud modem.

    One thing they could do to improve it is add an option where you can set it to only load images and/or videos when specifically requested (kind of like some of the flashblock addons for browsers). A lot of times I just want to read the text, but I have to wait several minutes for all the images and garbage to load first.

    I should probably add: I'd rather have it like it is now than not have it at all. So I'm glad it's there. But it could be a hell of a lot better.
     
    • Funny x 1

Share This Page