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Spotted on Reddit: FCC paperwork for a new Tesla BLE Fob.....

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by ModelNforNerd, Aug 6, 2018.

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    #2 RayK, Aug 6, 2018
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    3 Fob! 3 Fob! 3 Fob! I'll buy at least two; three if they're cheap enough, in addition to getting a couple more keycards.

    P.S. I'm still using the keycard after a month. I've not, and don't intend to, link my smartphone to be a key.
     
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    Settle down, this is no big deal. It's just the fob for their first batch of Model Y mules.







    *adjust tinfoil for better reception*
     
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    You sure they're not for the Semi?
     
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    my sister's cousin's best friend's uncle's college roommate's neighbor says it's for the mini-car Elon tweeted about last night.
     
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    this is all that shows up. What am I missing? Screenshot_20180806-124754_Samsung Internet.jpg
     
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    Can anybody supply the FCC ID from an S or X fob? I'm guessing that it's stamped on the back, although it could also be inside if the battery is replaceable.
     
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    Model S fob:

    IMG_20180806_155410.jpg
     
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    So yes....clearly a new device..........
     
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    So will these work on existing model 3s or only for new ones in the future?

    Would suck if I can’t get It to work with my existing model 3.
     
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    If this is for the 3, it should be a simple service center visit to pair with the car (and maybe a software push so that we get Summon to work with it).
     
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    That’s only true if they use bluetooth for this fob. Which would probably as unreliable as the current phone keys.
     
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    I currently have an S. Fob works great, which is why everyone is clamoring for it.


    This document is clearly for a BLE (Bluetooth low energy) device.


    Sounds like that's the route they're going.


    Edit: the fob ONLY does fob things. The phone does lots of other things besides being a key. That seems to be the problem. When you have a fob, that you provide, it's a much more controlled environment compared to everyone trying to use their own phones. Android and it's different versions. iOS. Windows.

    Different hardware platforms. Different Bluetooth radios and firmware versions.


    Too many variables. It was a recipe for failure.
     
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    I would LOVE a fob! All I want to do is be able to unlock the driver's door, or all doors, unlock the trunk, frunk, start the car, or send an emergency signal. And I could put my house key on it, like I've been doing with all my keychains and fobs for decades. The app is great for other stuff, but it seems much safer to have something reliable and simple.
     
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    I'm glad that they are speculatively giving people the option, but I can't see ever getting one myself. I don't have to carry keys or a keyring with fob any more. It's awesome.
     
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    Agreed I don’t want a fob personally. Hell I wish I didn’t need to carry my wallet. If only CA would allow us to use an electronic I.D. for my license.

    If this does come out I’ll probably still use my phone as my main and card as backup.
     
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    Why? The evidence suggests the problem is mostly with the phones - iPhones seem to have a better success rate than Androids, for example. BLE is already used for the S and X (the Model X always came with a BLE fob, and the Model S should have been changed in 2016 to use BLE, IIRC). There is no reason why a dedicated fob that only has to talk to one device should have any problems, as compared to a general purpose device that has to connect to multiple devices. Especially since both the car and the fob would have the same manufacturer, and the software in both should be optimized to talk to each other.
     
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    Offer a fob and I'd likely jump back in line for a Model 3. But not until.
    Robin
     
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