Had SR, upgrade to + and the most I saw was 228-230. Now I’m at 209-215 with 12k miles in 6months. That’s either some heavy degradation or some bad battery calculation.
what did you pay?
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Had SR, upgrade to + and the most I saw was 228-230. Now I’m at 209-215 with 12k miles in 6months. That’s either some heavy degradation or some bad battery calculation.
Hope it's temporary, if not I'm complaining in the summer.I dunno, it could be temporary because of the cold, but here in BC it's usually around 5-10 degrees, we don't get real winters in my city, so I think the ~5% loss might just be normal degradation.
I should note for you yankees that 5-10 degrees C is like 40-50 degrees F. I was actually recently down in NV, CA, and AZ with my Model 3 for a road trip and the "Distance" display was showing a reduction similar to up here, even when the weather was a scorching 35C. I don't think weather affects the "Distance" display, which is just another reason I find it completely useless and stick with Percentage. Here in the winter using the heater I lose about 2-3 "kilometers" for every 1 actual kilometer driven!Hope it's temporary, if not I'm complaining in the summer.
Compared to you we're balmy here in AZ,CA but it did get to freezing last night.
I don't think weather affects the "Distance" display
I should note for you yankees that 5-10 degrees C is like 40-50 degrees F. I was actually recently down in NV, CA, and AZ with my Model 3 for a road trip and the "Distance" display was showing a reduction similar to up here, even when the weather was a scorching 35C. I don't think weather affects the "Distance" display, which is just another reason I find it completely useless and stick with Percentage. Here in the winter using the heater I lose about 2-3 "kilometers" for every 1 actual kilometer driven!
Are you sure about that? I haven't really noticed the "distance" change when I have almost no regen and the car is cold versus after the battery has had hours of hard use, assuming the same SoC. I'll have to do more tests. Temperature and weather both affect the real world range of the car, I've noticed rain is another thing that seems to give me a noticeable range hit, even though here the rainy days are the warmer ones in the winter.The battery temperature definitely does. It’s not the only factor of course. And temperature is not the same as weather.
I think that is pretty standard for most EV's. Keep in mind I live in a very mountainous part of Canada where there is frequent downpours and weather that hits near freezing sometimes. I also admit that I drive with a moderately aggressive style and the occasional WOT. Honestly the Distance indicator being off by a factor of 2 is a good day for me. The other day I charged to 90% and the Energy Display showed 169km range based on my last 50km driven while the "Distance" measurment showed 328km. Quite the difference and yet I was happy to see that I'd gotten into the low 200 wh/km range finally! I think it was like 220 or 230 ish. Not sure the exact conversion to wh per mile, but multiply by 1.6 and you get the idea.that seems insane. You say you are losing 50-66% of your distance?
Are you sure about that?
Keep in mind that since there is no decimal place in the percentage display it is a lot less accurate for tracking phantom drain while parked than rated distance. I usually lose about 10-15km per day of being parked with Sentry off, but that isn't usually enough for the display to show a full percent lost. If I leave it two days then it gets to be enough where it ticks down a percentage for sure. Another interesting thing is if you leave the car plugged in, and it finishes charging, it will let the battery go down noticeably in SoC before it starts charging again automatically. I'm not sure exactly what the threshold is, but on my roadtrip through the US I'd often come out in the morning to find the car at 99% instead of the 100% I had set, or 89% instead of 90%. Agree that retaining miles in a Tesla is like herding cats!Since I live in a generally warm place, I have just one personal experience to back it up. Parked at around 90%, extrapolating to 304 miles at 100%, and overnight lost 6 rated miles while retaining the same state of charge %. Car started really warm (coming up hill from Sedona), and was left in 35 degrees in Flagstaff overnight. I was watching my range carefully because I had a long road trip the next day (retaining miles in a Tesla is like herding cats). So my extrapolated 100% was at 298 or so in the chilly morning, then drove down to Yuma to 90 degree weather, and Supercharged to 304 miles that same day.
Keep in mind that since there is no decimal place in the percentage display it is a lot less accurate for tracking phantom drain while parked than rated distance
Are you sure about that? I haven't really noticed the "distance" change when I have almost no regen and the car is cold versus after the battery has had hours of hard use, assuming the same SoC. I'll have to do more tests. Temperature and weather both affect the real world range of the car, I've noticed rain is another thing that seems to give me a noticeable range hit, even though here the rainy days are the warmer ones in the winter.
I think that is pretty standard for most EV's. Keep in mind I live in a very mountainous part of Canada where there is frequent downpours and weather that hits near freezing sometimes. I also admit that I drive with a moderately aggressive style and the occasional WOT. Honestly the Distance indicator being off by a factor of 2 is a good day for me. The other day I charged to 90% and the Energy Display showed 169km range based on my last 50km driven while the "Distance" measurment showed 328km. Quite the difference and yet I was happy to see that I'd gotten into the low 200 wh/km range finally! I think it was like 220 or 230 ish. Not sure the exact conversion to wh per mile, but multiply by 1.6 and you get the idea.
what did you pay?
$4500 + tax, includes autopilot.
Tesla still has work to do on their batteries. Their batteries are not up to the task yet.
What was your range when new?South Florida. SR owner. 100% charge shows 193 miles. 19000 miles since picking it up in late May 2019. ~11% degradation. My daily commute is 140 miles so I'm beating this battery up every day. Oh and I top off from 90 to 100% just before leaving each morning.
What was your range when new?
I voluntarily downgraded my SR+ to SR after 6 months and 17k miles. I went from 238mi at 100% to 207, and my real world mileage seems to have taken a hit as well.