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How likely is that a previously applied ceramic coating will affect stick on plates? I understand that putting ppf on top of ceramic can cause adhesion problems.
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Not really much issue at allHow likely is that a previously applied ceramic coating will affect stick on plates? I understand that putting ppf on top of ceramic can cause adhesion problems.
Did they come with the GB & Logo, or did you have to choose an extra option (can't see how to order for stick-on plates)?So... to update everyone, I just finish installing the plates and I think they look great, much better than I was expecting.
The number plate holders were super simple to take off, I'm the worst with DIY as well, so this is like a 1/10 hard.
I used some post it notes to mark where the plate should go after the mounts come off.
The plates were super sticky, but followed the instructions to put them on with soap and they held great whilst installing, I was slightly worried about the screw holes making the finished result look "lumpy and bumpy" but no issues at all.
Here's a picture of the final result (I masked the last part of the plate but gives you an idea)
Thanks for sharingStuck mine on.
So... to update everyone, I just finish installing the plates and I think they look great, much better than I was expecting.
The number plate holders were super simple to take off, I'm the worst with DIY as well, so this is like a 1/10 hard.
I used some post it notes to mark where the plate should go after the mounts come off.
The plates were super sticky, but followed the instructions to put them on with soap and they held great whilst installing, I was slightly worried about the screw holes making the finished result look "lumpy and bumpy" but no issues at all.
Here's a picture of the final result (I masked the last part of the plate but gives you an idea)
Stuck mine on. They're not 100% flat - lumps for the screw holes (and at the back, an indentation) are there if you look closely, but from a foot away you wouldn't know.
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Those plates look illegal, not because they are stick on, but because they don't have the BS number and manufacturer on them from what I can see. (The white car might be ok)
Those plates look illegal, not because they are stick on, but because they don't have the BS number and manufacturer on them from what I can see. (The white car might be ok)
George, I went through this palaver not through some rebellious streak but out of necessity. I own an American RV with odd square recesses at both ends requiring both a square plate and a smaller size than euro equivalents like a Land Rover etc.
Any company supplying plates without you present (as you rightly state) and without the garage details etc on them is supplying you with ‘show plates’ and there are a million of them on eBay. They all claim legality but it just doesn’t add up if you read the regs.
Also some countries like France insist on plates being screwed on.
So essentially, any plate that doesn’t get made with you and your documents present is questionable as is a stick on. But is it a problem in reality? No not really. Many RV owners are forced to use the online folks and some don’t have the details on as required by law but nobody known on forums etc has ever had a problem with the police or an MOT tester. A fellow RVer working in the motor trade got my private plates done with all the legal small text at the bottom when I sold him my RV with the private plate and he transferred it so I don’t speak from experience but I think it’s not really an issue in the main and the worst you’ll get is being asked to take them off (never heard of that happening).
You don’t need GB plates if you have a GB sticker like the magnetic ones affixed to the rear. EU or no EU, it’s not law as far as I can tell and my RV doesn’t have them despite the plates being made less than a year ago.
Anyone with greater knowledge, feel free to correct me. Just sharing my experience to date.
My understanding is that there are no longer any checks for this in the MOT but the police sometimes give warnings or fixed penalties for number plates that don't conform to the standards. But I think they tend to concentrate on plates with undersize lettering, the wrong font, incorrect spacing and strategically placed screws i.e. things that seem intended to evade ANPR.I thought vehicles made after a certain data would fail an MOT if the BS number and supplier were missing?
0.1 Registration plates
You must check the registration plates on all vehicles except for:
You do not need to inspect the following items:
- unregistered vehicles
- foreign registered vehicles
- diplomatic vehicles
- military vehicles
Three-wheeled vehicles that do not have a body type which is characteristic of the body of a four-wheeled vehicle do not require a front number plate. All other vehicles, including quadricycles, must be fitted with front and rear registration plates, which must both be checked to ensure the registration number displayed is the same.
- the supplier’s name
- postcode
- BS number
- logos or emblems outside the minimum margin around the registration number
Registration plates must not:
You should pay particular attention to the position of any fixing screws or bolts as well as any delamination of the number plate as this can prevent identification of the vehicle by automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) cameras which ‘see’ any non-reflective material as being black.
- be obscured, excessively damaged, deteriorated or delaminated
- have background overprinting
- have any feature or fixing that has the effect of changing the appearance or legibility of any of the characters
- have a honeycomb or similar effect background on vehicles first registered on or after 1 September 2001 – back lit registration plates may have a honeycomb type construction which should not be confused with a honeycomb effect background
Registration plates may:
Registration plate characters:
- have an optional non-reflective border displayed within the margin – this must be no wider than 6mm and not within 5mm of the characters
- display white, grey or silver characters on a black background – only on vehicles manufactured before 1 January 1978
You do not have to physically measure the characters or their spacing and you should only reject them if they are obviously incorrect.
- may contain grey, possibly to achieve a 3D effect
- must be the correct size, stroke width and spacing
- must not be italic, sloping or formed using broken or multiple strokes
- must be laid out in the correct format for the age of vehicle
- must be formed using the prescribed font or be substantially similar to the prescribed font – as shown below
Registration plates fitted to vehicles manufactured on or after 1 January 1978 must:
Registration plates may be in a single or two line formats. Additionally, a three line format is permitted on vehicles first used before 1 September 2001.
- have black characters on a white background when fitted to the front
- have black characters on a yellow background when fitted to the rear
- be fitted vertically, or as close to vertical as is reasonably practicable
Registration plates must meet the dimensional requirements shown in the example below. However, the space between a number ‘1’ or a letter ‘I’ and another character is permitted to be proportionately greater.
Vehicles with non-date related plates, such as those issued before 1963 and Northern Ireland plates must still meet the separation requirement between groups of characters where relevant.
Vehicles registered before 1 September 2001 can have larger plates fitted with characters 89mm high and other relevant dimensions that are subsequently larger.
Tricycles, quadricycles and imported vehicles that do not have the space for standard sized registration plates can have smaller registration plates.