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Stop the Press! Tesla announces REAL HP numbers for P85D and P90L

Discussion in 'Model S: Driving Dynamics' started by Matias, Oct 31, 2015.

  1. Matias

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  3. darthy001

    darthy001 Love my car, hope Tesla can get as great!

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    I guess us whiners finally got Tesla to be truthful in their advertising! Must hurt for the ones not on "the dark side" to see something actually come out of all of this;)
     
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    YESSSS! WE finally got it! But oh boy - the DISSAPOINTMENT is hard to swallow!:cursing:
     
  5. Matias

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    It took a year for truth to finally be admitted!

    Thank you Wk057, krisg81, sorka, Andyw2100 , darthy001 and many others!

    "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
    Abraham Lincoln


     
  6. darthy001

    darthy001 Love my car, hope Tesla can get as great!

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    Yes, I guess the case in Denmark just went from slamdunk to "lets settle out of court"!?

    Have you heard anything from them lately?
     
  7. Matias

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    Model X next
     
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    I wonder about a small claims suit? ($10,000 max in Calif)
     
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    No word from Tesla - the lawyers are working.
     
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    There is less than 50hp difference between P85D and 85D. 0-60 time in P85D is with 1 feet roll out and in 85D it is without that. So the real difference in 0-60 time is about 0.8 seconds. 50 hp can't make such a difference? Is 85D software limited?
     
  11. darthy001

    darthy001 Love my car, hope Tesla can get as great!

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    The P does have the bigger rear motor. I assume thats part of it. But a software limited car wouldnt be the first time in history. Actually far from it. In Norway I would guess 80% of the cars sold are indeed software limited.

    Honestly I dont see a problem even if the 85D theoretically could do the same 0-60times as the P. Thats just good engineering from Tesla!
     
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    I don't mean to say, that that would be problem. I'm just curious. I know that it is common in microprocessors to limit the performance of cheaper models.
     
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    darthy001 Love my car, hope Tesla can get as great!

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    Aha:) Yes, I wouldnt be surprised if the 85D was indeed limited. Actually making it and the 90D a better deal for every passing day to be honest. No doubt I would buy the 90D today.
     
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    I think so too. There's got to be an advantage of using the bigger rear motor for Tesla to have created the P85D. When battery technology improves, putting the bigger motor both in the front and rear could create the next generation beast.
     
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    Did Tesla remove the 1/4 mile 10.9 sec spec? I can no longer find it in the detailed specifications.
     
  16. Todd Burch

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    It's still listed in the Design Studio
     
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    Better acceleration and better handling in corners (less understeer).
     
  18. AnOutsider

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    Great news. Kudos to all of you who fought for what you felt was right and got results.

    It always seemed odd that they could get the numbers and times right for the pre P cars, then suddenly "measuring EVs is hard!".

    Many here scoffed when Audi claimed some insane Torque amount on the etron by adding up the wheels, so we should hold Tesla to the same standards.

    Hopefully they keep it up going forward, but a shame all of this drama had to happen to get them to be honest
     
  19. dsm363

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    Glad they finally released these numbers.
     
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    Now we can brag that it does these performance metrics with less hp and more weight!

    Rs7 has 560 hp and does 0-60 in 3.2 but Tesla does it in 2.6 with 30 less hp and 400 lbs more weight.
     

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