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Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software
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I remember the sales pitch a year ago just before I bought my S, was 10% - 90% in 20 minutes. I drive a lot and this was pretty important to me.
Yesterday I stopped at the supercharger heading home.
It took 55 minutes to go from 32.4% to 79.8%.
Battery temp was 81.4 F when I got there 97.0 F when I left, so it wasn't too cold to take a decent charge. 53kw was the highest charge I got on an unpaired stall.
It's just painful!
I have a 450 mile each way trip at least once a month. I can handle 20 minutes. This is adding more than 2 hours to my 6 hour drive.
Argh!
Yesterday I stopped at the supercharger heading home.
It took 55 minutes to go from 32.4% to 79.8%.
Battery temp was 81.4 F when I got there 97.0 F when I left, so it wasn't too cold to take a decent charge. 53kw was the highest charge I got on an unpaired stall.
It's just painful!
I have a 450 mile each way trip at least once a month. I can handle 20 minutes. This is adding more than 2 hours to my 6 hour drive.
Argh!
Of course it is
My pump seems to run only if I charge to more than 80% (70% as it's capped). Is that the case also for you?
So, basically if I charge to more than 70% of my battery the pump starts sucking the extra energy out of the pack for hours. Plus, I do not get more than 37kW starting at 35% SoC to 80-90%. That 37kW is my so called "Supercharging" speed, LOL.
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DJRas
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My 85D got those warnings on Friday and I dropped it off at SC Monday. They will be doing diagnostics tomorrow, but I fear it is a non-warranty item (coolant or heater etc rather than battery or motor). Currently using taxi and train to get around. I wonder what they will recommend for you in terms of fix.
I don't recall them ever saying you could charge 10-90% in 20 minutes. I do recall them saying in as little as 30 minutes, but I thought that was 10-80%. (Which is what their site appears to still demonstrate.)
It feels like we are making some progress. I think the newly released HV diagnostics mean that Tesla has gotten somewhat of a handle on the root cause and how to detect it (no small feat), which allows them to scope the problem and start ramping-up supply chain and manufacturing with a fix.
I think it was @Droschke who offered the analogy that packs are either sick or terminally sick, which I think is turning out to be pretty apt. I think the downside to all this is that if you have a sick (not terminally sick) pack, you are in battery purgatory, hoping for a complete failure before you 8 years are up (kinda like the eMMC issue). Hopefully, as they ramp up the supply of replacement pack, Tesla will get more proactive and loosen the definition of terminally ill.
I think it was @Droschke who offered the analogy that packs are either sick or terminally sick, which I think is turning out to be pretty apt. I think the downside to all this is that if you have a sick (not terminally sick) pack, you are in battery purgatory, hoping for a complete failure before you 8 years are up (kinda like the eMMC issue). Hopefully, as they ramp up the supply of replacement pack, Tesla will get more proactive and loosen the definition of terminally ill.
@Brunel @Zodiacchris Isolation fault is a high voltage battery related issue Tesla has already reported to the NHTSA https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2013/SB-10052460-6095.pdf
#sigh, as predicted...
This is the stupid sh!t that irritates me--this was obviously not going to be an issue that mobile service could handle, but did not have an option to schedule anything other than mobile service so had to waste two days while they figured that out.
This is the stupid sh!t that irritates me--this was obviously not going to be an issue that mobile service could handle, but did not have an option to schedule anything other than mobile service so had to waste two days while they figured that out.
70D - on 11kW my pumps runs for exactly 3hours. The consumption is 3-400w per hours according to SmT
This drives me nuts. I have a booking in for mobile now that I know must be done at the service center cause the mobile guy told me that. Yet the appointment is in two days and crickets from Tesla on rescheduling me for a service center. I am betting the mobile guy shows up and says "oh, that has to be done at the service center". Well if I could book the service center direct I would! The app seems to randomly force me one way or the other.
I just called the service center and asked if the work could be done by mobile and he said, no not usually. I then told him I had been booked for mobile and is there a way to fix that. He said, oh, if you have been booked for mobile they MUST be able to do it!!
/end rant/threadjacking
JRP3
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I didn't see Tesla mentioned in either so I assume no action has yet been taken by NHTSA.
They didn't write the law just for Tesla. The law just says all auto manufacturers will be fined for not reporting within 5 days of discovering an issue.
Tesla discovered and investigated back in April/May. They're hundreds of days late so the fines go up.
We don't want laws written specifically for Tesla - that's how Michigan banned sales and service.
Tesla discovered and investigated back in April/May. They're hundreds of days late so the fines go up.
We don't want laws written specifically for Tesla - that's how Michigan banned sales and service.
DJRas
Member
The action hasn't been processed. It is under review though. If a recall is deemed appropriate then their fine will be millions (but probably not the $700,000,000 that went to Takata).
Are you 100% certain that Tesla hasn't been keeping NHTSA in the loop as they are supposed to? How many people thought that Tesla had reviewed most of the SUA reports with NHTSA already? (Even before there was a defect petition.) There certainly wasn't anything posted publicly, that I saw, about that prior to Tesla's recent blog post.
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