jpvdheijn
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I think this thread has derailed massively after the content wk057 had shared on battery gate. IMHO that concluded 737 pages of ranting against.
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I think this thread has derailed massively after the content wk057 had shared on battery gate. IMHO that concluded 737 pages of ranting against.
Sure whatever makes you feel better.That's not why they are suing.
I'm not the one so emotionally involved that I make up unlikely scenarios to support my feelings. I'm going by data as always. Tesla is claiming they have evidence of specific theft of documents, including admissions of employees doing so. Thousands of employees have left Tesla over the years, they are only suing a specific few with specific claims. Maybe read the suit if you actually care about the truth.Sure whatever makes you feel better.
WHEREAS, the parties are continuing their discussions in good faith and require additional time to complete them;
WHEREAS, the parties desire to preserve the status quo and prevent the parties and the Court
from unnecessarily expending resources pending mediation;
THEREFORE, subject to the approval of the Court, the parties agree and stipulate as
follows: The parties will report to the Court with an update on April 30, 2021. This matter shall
be stayed until that date, and all other case deadlines shall be vacated.
I don't use TeslaFi so not familiar with its inner workings. I don't understand what the 'battery degradation' graph you posted above actually shows. I don't see that improved readings show reversal of degradation, so on that basis neither does the graph show 'degradation'.I have seen a minor, about 1kw increase in nominal capacity correlated with the update last June. It was not immediate.
I don't know everything about Teslafi either. The battery degradation (beta) display clearly shows an upward trend for me since June when I had an update.I don't use TeslaFi so not familiar with its inner workings. I don't understand what the 'battery degradation' graph you posted above actually shows. I don't see that improved readings show reversal of degradation, so on that basis neither does the graph show 'degradation'.
Does it show actual range based on miles driven which would possibly then change range estimate based on factors like temperature, driving style, tire size / condition, etc etc? Imo it must include some factors like these in order for the Estimated 100% range to drop then increase so much.
If you do a long hypermiling drive say from 100% down to 15% that would evidence the actual range as higher than normal, would TeslaFi show a step change in its range estimate?
I think we are all intelligent enough to know that any documents revealing Tesla's internal processes are worthless!I'm not the one so emotionally involved that I make up unlikely scenarios to support my feelings. I'm going by data as always. Tesla is claiming they have evidence of specific theft of documents, including admissions of employees doing so. Thousands of employees have left Tesla over the years, they are only suing a specific few with specific claims. Maybe read the suit if you actually care about the truth.
This is simple observation on my MS85D. Purchased as a CPO on 3/20/19. Published range 270 miles, 100% charge at purchase range 262 miles. 100% charge 4/2/2021 232 miles. When at an SC to charge from 20% to 80% the initial estimated time 35 minutes, actual time 60 to 65 minutes with preconditioning. I recently made the same trip in the Tesla and my ICE vehicle from Ouray, CO to my home in Arvada, CO of 302 miles. Remember that I am driving in mountainous terrain in the winter, using range mode, seat heater on low and heat at 68deg fan speed of 5. The ICE trip with stops was 6 hours, the Tesla took 8.5 hours with 2 stops to charge in Montrose and Salida and arrived home with 40 miles of range. I have been following the Class Action Lawsuit in hopes that the batteries will be replaced and the charge rates will be restored back to a rate that makes this vehicle usable for longer road trips.
Same here. I have DEFINITELY done way more than the 30 cycles, and gotten SQUAT backThanks @Guy V , I'm happy for you.
Unfortunately in my case, not only that my pack's capacity remains non-restored I've even lost more miles recently.
I wish that were true, but given the way Tesla has been treating us, I won't hold my breath.For those that are not seeing the increase in range, perhaps there is a new 90KwH pack in your future...
In fact I am quite sure that it will 'magically' need to be replaced right after the warrantee expires.I wish that were true, but given the way Tesla has been treating us, I won't hold my breath.
battery warranty is coming up in Dec this year (original build date Dec 2013). bumper to bumper warranty is about to expire in two months. I guess I better figure out if this car is worth keeping or worth selling for the $25k the internet seems to think 2013's are worth. Personally I'd rather not go through the hassle of looking for a new car, but, I don't know how reliable long term this one will be. Getting an extended warranty might not make sense if the battery warranty is going to run out just a few months later. thoughts?
MCU1 to MCU2 upgrade is $1,500.Depends how much you think your car is worth. Battery replacement is what.... 12k usd for the model S and with another 2500 usd charger upgrade and another 2500 usd for an mcu upgrade may give you essentially a new car if you dont need fancy new tech features?
Maybe watch bjorn nylands millenium falcon videos re: restoration and maintainance work needed on a high milage S?
If you have a P85+ or a signature S I think its worth keeping imho.