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Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software
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Sure - get ready to brush up on your Danish ;-)
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Retten i Hillerød - Gruppesøgsmål - tilmelding
Sag BS-4100/2021-HIL Steen Andersen Ledsager som grupperepræsentant for en gruppe af ejere af bil af mærket Teslamodels S 70, 70D, 85, 85D, 85R eller P85D årgang 2013 - 2016 (advokat Torsten Pedersen) mod Tesla Motors Denmark ApS (advokat Anders Nielsen)
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Opdatering gjorde bilen ringere: Tesla-ejere kan se frem til stor erstatning
Vrede Tesla-ejere har nu udsigt til en erstatning på 100.000 kr. pr. bil. En softwareopdatering fra Tesla har tilsyneladende fordoblet den tid, det tager at oplade bilernes batteri.
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Tesla trækkes i retten af danske bilister – bilerne er nu alt for lang tid om at lade op
Læs mere her.
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Sure - get ready to brush up on your Danish ;-)
Retten i Hillerød - Gruppesøgsmål - tilmelding
Sag BS-4100/2021-HIL Steen Andersen Ledsager som grupperepræsentant for en gruppe af ejere af bil af mærket Teslamodels S 70, 70D, 85, 85D, 85R eller P85D årgang 2013 - 2016 (advokat Torsten Pedersen) mod Tesla Motors Denmark ApS (advokat Anders Nielsen)
Opdatering gjorde bilen ringere: Tesla-ejere kan se frem til stor erstatning
Vrede Tesla-ejere har nu udsigt til en erstatning på 100.000 kr. pr. bil. En softwareopdatering fra Tesla har tilsyneladende fordoblet den tid, det tager at oplade bilernes batteri.
Tesla trækkes i retten af danske bilister – bilerne er nu alt for lang tid om at lade op
Læs mere her.
Thanks. I see it's for the Chargegate (not the Batterygate).
Steps 1 & 2 done but I'm struggling with step 3, if anyone can help with this please PM me.
lightningltd
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DonovanMS85D
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Go to the first page of the thread and click on The Latest Docket Entries for the latest updates from the court caseStill no word? This is getting old. Just lost ANOTHER 7 miles of range in 2 days. Of course, Tesla says nothing is wrong with my battery
islandbayy
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airborne spoon
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It feels like that is what they are trying to pull.
Like damn its just been one extension after another with no update as to what's being discussed or anything.
Not a lawyer but if true then seems both sides are playing us. Hope not.......but you know what they say about lawyers.
Don't extensions have to be agreed to by both sides? I don't understand why all of these extensions are being granted, but I also don't understand this level of the legal system. I also don't understand why Plaintiffs' attorneys aren't shaking the media tree and making a lot of noise. If for no other reason than to start shaping public opinion in a way to hurt Tesla's sales. I guarantee a quick settlement after a few press conferences.
Why are these attorneys not being more aggressive? Maybe you guys hired a snowflake. In the absence of progress through the courts there should be press conferences, press releases, briefings, whatever it takes to get Tesla to settle. Plaintiffs should be done playing nice and should now be playing to win.
Why are these attorneys not being more aggressive? Maybe you guys hired a snowflake. In the absence of progress through the courts there should be press conferences, press releases, briefings, whatever it takes to get Tesla to settle. Plaintiffs should be done playing nice and should now be playing to win.
cpa
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Trial lawyers should weigh in on this.
My uninformed and ignorant opinion is that cooperation between adversaries works more often that ultimatums and force. The last thing a lawyer wants is to have an "oops!" moment when he is rushed into making decisions, thereby fouling his case.
Most civil actions do not want to go to trial. Juries are unpredictable. They get mighty expensive with all the pretrial litigation, discovery, depositions, and more. Sometimes motions or other litigation is appealed. That tacks on more costs and delays to trial. Then there is the public relations angle: Will the public perceive Tesla as a corrupt, greedy, and careless corporation, or will they perceive us owners as whiny little b*tches who cry foul when things don't go our way? Especially when we consider that BEV technology is new and innovative, perhaps we will wind up with egg on our faces should the trial publicity paint this sort of picture. Lawyers know rhetoric and know how to be deceptive and disingenuous with facts and events.
I would suspect that during this mediation period there is a gag order between the parties. It is dollars to doughnuts that any settlement will include some sort of nondisclosure arrangement. Hence no publicity from plaintiff's counsel. I will even go so far as to opine that whatever the outcome is, we class members won't know anything more than what we have spent the past two years and nigh on 15,000 posts discussing. DJRas, as lead plaintiff will know. But he will have pinky-sworn not to tell.
My uninformed and ignorant opinion is that cooperation between adversaries works more often that ultimatums and force. The last thing a lawyer wants is to have an "oops!" moment when he is rushed into making decisions, thereby fouling his case.
Most civil actions do not want to go to trial. Juries are unpredictable. They get mighty expensive with all the pretrial litigation, discovery, depositions, and more. Sometimes motions or other litigation is appealed. That tacks on more costs and delays to trial. Then there is the public relations angle: Will the public perceive Tesla as a corrupt, greedy, and careless corporation, or will they perceive us owners as whiny little b*tches who cry foul when things don't go our way? Especially when we consider that BEV technology is new and innovative, perhaps we will wind up with egg on our faces should the trial publicity paint this sort of picture. Lawyers know rhetoric and know how to be deceptive and disingenuous with facts and events.
I would suspect that during this mediation period there is a gag order between the parties. It is dollars to doughnuts that any settlement will include some sort of nondisclosure arrangement. Hence no publicity from plaintiff's counsel. I will even go so far as to opine that whatever the outcome is, we class members won't know anything more than what we have spent the past two years and nigh on 15,000 posts discussing. DJRas, as lead plaintiff will know. But he will have pinky-sworn not to tell.
Sorry if the focus / interest of the thread has moved away from technical and more towards legal process, but I stumbled on an old 2018 Design News article on Dendrites (and also pre-Dendrites and non-dentrites) that seems fairly easy reading and still interesting / pertinent.
"Without seeing what is happening inside, you could be easily fooled by the seemingly reasonable voltage, but, really, your battery has already failed."
www.designnews.com
I did search to see if this has previously been posted and found nothing. Kind of old, but made me wonder what monitoring could be done outside of the cells purely based on electrical characteristics that would be able to determine these different states developing.
"Without seeing what is happening inside, you could be easily fooled by the seemingly reasonable voltage, but, really, your battery has already failed."
Three Ways That Lithium Dendrites Grow
New research shows that lithium metal crystals grow in three different ways in lithium batteries, depending upon the current level at which charging takes place.
www.designnews.com
I did search to see if this has previously been posted and found nothing. Kind of old, but made me wonder what monitoring could be done outside of the cells purely based on electrical characteristics that would be able to determine these different states developing.
JRP3
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