Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

[GHammer]

I head my 2013 tesla a p85 for the past 4yrs I was able to charge my car 285-305 miles full charge. Week ago I took my car for 8GB ram recall and when I got my car back I my full change range dropped to 243 miles. I contact tesla and they told me my battery is out of warranty. So I explain to them this can not be a battery! This happen over night in tesla service center. To replace my 8gb card they keep my car for two days.

You were looking at "ideal" range setting before the ram replacement, it's now set to display "rated" range. Nothing to do with your battery.

 

[Max257]

You were looking at "ideal" range setting before the ram replacement, it's now set to display "rated" range. Nothing to do with your battery.

My car had always the same range over

You were looking at "ideal" range setting before the ram replacement, it's now set to display "rated" range. Nothing to do with your battery.

 

[Droschke]

I head my 2013 tesla a p85 for the past 4yrs I was able to charge my car 285-305 miles full charge. Week ago I took my car for 8GB ram recall and when I got my car back I my full change range dropped to 243 miles. I contact tesla and they told me my battery is out of warranty. So I explain to them this can not be a battery! This happen over night in tesla service center. To replace my 8gb card they keep my car for two days.

Was your "285-305 miles full charge" the Rated Miles or the Ideal Miles?

 

[lightningltd]

You were looking at "ideal" range setting before the ram replacement, it's now set to display "rated" range. Nothing to do with your battery.

Rated is the default setting when certain settings are cleared, which is done when they change the infotainment center. Some user settings are retained, others are reset.

 

[Droschke]

My car had always the same range over

Because it was probably set for Ideal Miles. Set it to the Ideal Miles to see what you get. You shouldn't use Ideal miles.

 

[Max257]

 

[Droschke]

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Go under Settings, "Display", "Energy Display", see what you get for either "Rated" or "Ideal".

 

[lightningltd]

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If you goto settings, Display, Energy Display, and set it to "Ideal", it will likely show what you were reporting before. FWIW, Ideal should never be used. It has no real world bearing on the battery state, or how many miles you will get.

Rated vs Ideal vs Projected and how to use them

Can someone "dumb it down" for me and explain Rated, Ideal, and Projected Range? I know Projected isn't a choice for display anymore. Is it still available somewhere? Thanks?

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[Max257]

Thank you for your help.

 

[Droschke]

Thank you for your help.

What did you get for the "Ideal" settings?

Make sure you leave it set for "Rated". That's closer to the real world range. Otherwise you are risking going empty driving around.

 

[Max257]

Anyone here turns the surcharge back on? My 2013 type s p85 salvage. I purchased the car at the auction. Primary damage stripped all parts I find inside my tesla. Tesla flagged my car. No supercharged.

 

[Droschke]

Anyone here turns the surcharge back on? My 2013 type s p85 salvage. I purchased the car at the auction. Primary damage stripped all parts I find inside my tesla. Tesla flagged my car. No supercharged.

This is the wrong thread for your question. Do a search for salvaged cars and supercharging.

 

[lightningltd]

For those who are wondering what the EPA advertised ranges (rated) were when your Tesla was new, here is a table.

Teslike.com

 

[Droschke]

For those interested in the final motion for the settlement, signed and dated on June 21, 2022:

1. Go to page 1 of this thread.
2. Click on the link "CourtListener.com Rasmussen v. Tesla - The Latest Docket Documents" under "The Latest Docket Entries".
3. Click on "Order on Motion for Settlement AND Order on Motion for Attorney Fees — Document #64".

Thank you @DJRas

 

[kirkusss]

I am currently on aroad trip in Canadian Maritimes and I am only relying on the Supercharger network. I am pleasantly surprised I am at 110-125 on the SoC+Power. It is really keeping a good pace until 30% and then slowly tapers. This 85D pack seems to be better, but will keep my eyes open for a newer 350V pack anyways.

 

[maximizese]

The May 2019 update reduced range from about 250 miles to about 220 miles. You experienced about 1/3 of that and likely was not one of the affected cars.

Maybe. If mine is not one of the affected cars then I would love to know why my ranged suddenly dropped from 256 to no more than 246. I did the battery capacity calculation using the (average power consumption * projected range) / battery %SOC and arrive at 71.308kWh. I recall doing this exercise back in early 2019 and getting something like 77.6.

I'm wondering if I need to get one of those CANBUS readers to see what's actually going on with my Vmax. If only I had some documentation, but it took us all awhile to figure out that something was wrong.

 

[Droschke]

I'm wondering if I need to get one of those CANBUS readers to see what's actually going on with my Vmax.

I was looking at the prices for the recommended ODBLink readers for the Scan My Tesla app. They have gone up by more than 100% since the pandemic!

 

[BigNick]

I was looking at the prices for the recommended ODBLink readers for the Scan My Tesla app. They have gone up by more than 100% since the pandemic!

I got this one for $99.95 in late 2020. It's up to $139.95 now, a 40% increase. Not double, but still nuts compared to overall inflation of 10%-15%.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JFRFJG6/

 

[Droschke]

I got this one for $99.95 in late 2020. It's up to $139.95 now, a 40% increase. Not double, but still nuts compared to overall inflation of 10%-15%.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JFRFJG6/

In December of 2019, the price of that reader dropped from $80 to $59. I forgot to buy it at that price and shortly after in 2020, it started to climb to ~$100 and now at $140.

 

[tga]

I got this one for $99.95 in late 2020. It's up to $139.95 now, a 40% increase. Not double, but still nuts compared to overall inflation of 10%-15%.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JFRFJG6/

In December of 2019, the price of that reader dropped from $80 to $59. I forgot to buy it at that price and shortly after in 2020, it started to climb to ~$100 and now at $140.

I use the LX: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H9S71LW/

Was $50 2 years ago, now $90. I don't know what the differences are between my LX and the MX+ (besides $50); the LX works fine with SMT