Suddenly speed up after disable autonomous driving

[sleepydoc]

Not true, and I tried it this morning in my wife's Model 3 to make sure. If you push up on the gear stalk (when in D) but don't hold it long enough, you'll see an alert message saying you have to hold it up for 1+ seconds to engage neutral. If you do hold the stalk up long enough, you won't see the alert and it will shift in neutral.

and why is this a problem? Are you in the habit of pushing the stalk up and holding it? (and if so, why?) I routinely tap the stalk up to cancel FSD or cruise and have never had an issue going into neutral or even having the car ask/warn me about it.

Correct. And if you are driving slow enough, you can put the car in reverse without stopping (usually).

Which is exactly what you want since there are times (parking lots, for instance) when you're driving slowly and want to quickly reverse.

Both of these behaviors are almost exactly like my Audi A4 that had electronic transmission. It had a shifter on the center console and you pulled it down to go into drive up one notch to go into neutral and all the way up to go into reverse. If you bumped it while driving it would confirm before going into neutral and would not let you go into reverse if you were going over 5 MPH.

 

[EVRider-FL]

and why is this a problem? Are you in the habit of pushing the stalk up and holding it? (and if so, why?) I routinely tap the stalk up to cancel FSD or cruise and have never had an issue going into neutral or even having the car ask/warn me about it.

Not a problem, just a correction to the post that I replied to. I prefer to cancel AP by tapping the brake, but that's personal preference. I do the same in my Model S, even though it has a dedicated AP stalk, which is easier to use than the gearshift in my opinion.

 

[serendipitous]

and why is this a problem? Are you in the habit of pushing the stalk up and holding it? (and if so, why?) I routinely tap the stalk up to cancel FSD or cruise and have never had an issue going into neutral or even having the car ask/warn me about it.

Others do, as shown by a number of posts on this very forum where people accidentally put it in Neutral. But I guess your familiarity with an objectively bad stalk design makes it OK, whereas the yoke (and its objectively better button-activated AP) is an abomination that must be railed at daily

 

[sleepydoc]

Others do, as shown by a number of posts on this very forum where people accidentally put it in Neutral. But I guess your familiarity with an objectively bad stalk design makes it OK, whereas the yoke (and its objectively better button-activated AP) is an abomination that must be railed at daily

The stalk is a problem but the yoke isn't... that's rich! I've seen 0 posts of people accidentally shifting into neutral so I did a search and found one. (and even that person didn't really seem to consider it an issue.) Hardly a pervasive problem, especially considering cars we're talking about. The yoke on the other hand is relatively new with relatively few being used and has many people that are experts (automotive reviewers that drive cars for a living, people specializing in interface design, etc) who have pointed out multiple flaws in the design. So yeah, if you wan to continue to try and complain about the stalk while defending the yoke, go ahead. You're in pretty lonely company, though.

 

[Candleflame]

I believe you, but I cannot think of an American manufactured automobile with the signal stock not on the left-hand side. So, please, name same makes worth the signal stalk on the right-side.

cars which are made by RHD markets (i.e. japanese) cars usually have the indicators on the right so you can indicate while you use the shifter...

 

[sleepydoc]

cars which are made by RHD markets (i.e. japanese) cars usually have the indicators on the right so you can indicate while you use the shifter...

But that’s completely irrelevant to the American market. With the exception of the few cars imported from these countries every car in the US has the turn signal stalk on the left.

 

[Candleflame]

But that’s completely irrelevant to the American market. With the exception of the few cars imported from these countries every car in the US has the turn signal stalk on the left.

yes, but if you i.e. drive a toyota it will have it on the right.

 

[sleepydoc]

yes, but if you i.e. drive a toyota it will have it on the right.

????
All Toyotas sold in the U. S. have it on the left.

 

[Candleflame]

????
All Toyotas sold in the U. S. have it on the left.

oh interesting. toyota must be swapping it then. but i.e. hyundai doesnt.

 

[hugh_jassol]

oh interesting. toyota must be swapping it then. but i.e. hyundai doesnt.

uh...wut? All cars sold in the North America market have the turn signal on the left stalk. I feel like you must be trolling at this point

 

[Candleflame]

uh...wut? All cars sold in the North America market have the turn signal on the left stalk. I feel like you must be trolling at this point

typical usa ignorance haha