Suggested super charger locations, Sydney only

[MangroveMike]

I think England was the first country to buck the trend of SC's being out of the cities. Their first one was in London. Same for HK, but I guess there isn't much out of the city there.
Maybe the philosophy has changed a bit.

 

[meloccom]

I think something near Sydney Airport would make sense as it allows regional owners to come into Sydney in the Tesla to catch a flight or drop someone off.
Its not far from the M5 for trips south as well.
When I last talked to Stone he said that the Service Centre would likely be in Alexandria so I think it makes a lot of sense as the first location.

 

[gizmonty]

I think England was the first country to buck the trend of SC's being out of the cities. Their first one was in London. Same for HK, but I guess there isn't much out of the city there.
Maybe the philosophy has changed a bit.

England's geography is a little bit different to Australia's. I can see good arguments for having them in London. The main one is that a high proportion of prospective owners will not have the ability to charge at home due to lack of garage. Also, the distances are relatively short. You could reach almost everywhere in England from London in a single charge of an 85 kWh model. Stopping to charge en-route is just less of an option.

It would be great to have superchargers in the cities here. I just think that installing them on major highways between cities and extending the range of the vehicles should be Tesla's first priority (well, second after actually delivering some vehicles).

 

[Lerxt]

There is a huge amount of land in HK out of the city but the reason for locating SC is based on few people being able to install wall connectors in their mass residential parking spots (due building management objections) and road trips being irrelevant in a small territory. In addition, few property owners would have the space or the interest in having a Tesla specific SC when the power companies can install common use chargers.

 

[danielp]

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Its not far from the M5 for trips south as well.
When I last talked to Stone he said that the Service Centre would likely be in Alexandria so I think it makes a lot of sense as the first location.

When was that? Recently ( two months ago) I was told Alexandria wasn't happening but St Ives (why?!) was - and job ads last month seem to correlate with that.

I think the super chargers should focus on places along the transport corridors optimised for distance. Near the M5/ED roads around the airport makes a lot of sense. Botany/Mascot/Alexandria are all good places with somewhere to grab a quick bite to eat while charging.

 

[meloccom]

When was that? Recently ( two months ago) I was told Alexandria wasn't happening but St Ives (why?!) was - and job ads last month seem to correlate with that.

I think the super chargers should focus on places along the transport corridors optimised for distance. Near the M5/ED roads around the airport makes a lot of sense. Botany/Mascot/Alexandria are all good places with somewhere to grab a quick bite to eat while charging.

My information was current around late June when they installed my wall charger, so probably out of date.
I know they were having difficulty finding somewhere with enough power supply, so that is probably the main driver.
Not very convenient for me but hopefully they can drop me off on the North Shore line so I can get back into town for work.

 

[LGGD]

One issue with any inner city/CBD locations in Sydney will be how to avoid having the supercharger parking spots being constantly ICE'd.

 

[danielp]

What would need to be in place to have them towed?

 

[cynix]

One issue with any inner city/CBD locations in Sydney will be how to avoid having the supercharger parking spots being constantly ICE'd.

Put parking spots behind gates that can only be opened with Tesla key fobs.

 

[LGGD]

Parking spots in the Sydney CBD and inner city suburbs (in parking garages) sell for between $50,000 and $150,000 (very approximately) I would expect that Tesla would want the supercharger location to be in a more accessible and visible location and therefore a potentially more expensive location. For the spots to be exclusive use (not all supercharger spots in the US are) will be a very expensive proposition but I presume Tesla regard such expenses as a marketing cost.

 

[Gabz]

What would need to be in place to have them towed?

even if you can have them towed it will take 30-60 mins for a tow truck to turn up and what do you do when you get EVed when some arsehat thinks they are dedicated tesla spots and leaves his model s their for 3 hours instead of <1 hour all you need to charge.

 

[Dborn]

When was that? Recently ( two months ago) I was told Alexandria wasn't happening but St Ives (why?!) was - and job ads last month seem to correlate with that.

I think the super chargers should focus on places along the transport corridors optimised for distance. Near the M5/ED roads around the airport makes a lot of sense. Botany/Mascot/Alexandria are all good places with somewhere to grab a quick bite to eat while charging.

Really? Snives? This is the first time i heard that. It actually suits me and not a bad place for a Northern entry supercharger. Any idea where in Snives?

 

[danielp]

No idea. And it's two months old so perhaps out of date?

Has anyone else heard the same? - I heard the same re snives shopping Center on this forum but not sure of that....

 

[TesAus]

When was that? Recently ( two months ago) I was told Alexandria wasn't happening but St Ives (why?!) was - and job ads last month seem to correlate with that.

There were three new jobs put up on 7th September with following locations:

1) Delivery Operations Specialist - Sydney CBD - Inner West and Eastern Suburbs
2) Regional Delivery Manager - Sydney - North Shore and Northern Beaches
3) Delivery Experience Specialist - Sydney CBD - Inner West and Eastern Suburbs

So either there is going to be an office in the city and service centre on North Shore/Northern beaches (St Ives?) or they are just randomly picking Sydney locations for the jobs!

 

[danielp]

Yeah it looks random. They were just north shore earlier

 

[timpoo]

Not strictly Sydney related - but saw in the Japan thread they are opening up 30 Superchargers, with the first 2 being in Tokyo and Totsuka (about 45km from Tokyo centre). Given Japan's lack of garaging facilities and low rate of "house" (as opposed to apartment) ownership, it seems to make sense that they would build the superchargers in cities to help their clients charge.

However, this would seem to be a compromise for me, because one of the great appeals of owning an electric car is being able to charge at home the majority of the time, and not have to go to a petrol station. If my only option was a supercharger, it would be like going to a petrol station every week, but I would need to stay longer. Having said that, the Supercharging is free - so obviously that makes up for a lot of it. Anyway, I guess you have to tailor your strategy to your market.

That's why Australia is such a good market for Tesla, because we're obsessed with owning our own piece of land, and many can therefore access at home charging, whereas in many parts of Asia, it's not as easy.

 

[Gabz]

Not strictly Sydney related - but saw in the Japan thread they are opening up 30 Superchargers, with the first 2 being in Tokyo and Totsuka (about 45km from Tokyo centre). Given Japan's lack of garaging facilities and low rate of "house" (as opposed to apartment) ownership, it seems to make sense that they would build the superchargers in cities to help their clients charge.

yes but comparatively 30 is small amount compared to the 2000 odd CHAdeMO chargers already in the country compared to Australia which only has 5.

 

[Dborn]

Wonder how many advance orders that they had in Japan. I would suspect Australia would be higher, which therefore surprises me that we are last off the block.

 

[Gabz]

Wonder how many advance orders that they had in Japan. I would suspect Australia would be higher, which therefore surprises me that we are last off the block.

you've obviously never looked at our previous EV sales figures... Japan has much better sales figures of EVs in general and Japanese government EV discounts.. the main reason i can see them not waiting a model s is that it's too big. why would they want a huge american car.

 

[Dborn]

My point exactly. Most of the posts in Japan seem to be concerned regarding the size of the vehicle.