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I recently bought a used Model S from Tesla (not private party or dealer). Because I had read these forums I was pretty much prepared for what to expect, but I thought it might be helpful to make a thread of suggestions for other potential buyers. While this info won't remain relevant forever, it's likely to be helpful to some.

I am very happy with my car. I'm glad we made the purchase and I would do it again. That said, there's room for improvement.
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SUGGESTIONS FOR BUYING A USED/CPO FROM TESLA

1. Use EV-CPO.com to find a car that fits your needs. The search function on the Tesla website will only search a radius from your location, it won't let you set a radius distance or limit to search to your state. So for me in Las Vegas, NV it showed me Vegas cars and SoCal cars but none in Reno. If I were determined to avoid paying California taxes then I might have preferred to only look in my own state, which can easily be done in the EV-CPO Hunter "advanced options" search. Using this website can also help you determine if Tesla is asking a fair price for the car you're interested in buying or if that price is inflated.

2. Request photos and inspect them carefully. One thing I did was to use my TV Chromecast to cast the images from my laptop onto my much larger TV screen and then zoom in and carefully examine the photos.

3. If you're going to do a trade-in shop around to get the best deal. It's very likely that CarMax will give you more for your old car than Tesla will, unless your old car was a Tesla.

4. If you're driving your car home after taking delivery and you have a long ways to go, ask them explicitly to charge your car 100% full. We told them multiple times that we were driving home from San Diego but they didn't connect the dots and charge our car for us. They didn't even charge it to 90%. It was at about 80% when we got it, which meant we had to stop twice on the way home to charge instead of just once. They still might not charge it to 100% but at least you can try to get them to do it. On this note, double check the trunk to make sure you have your mobile charging kit.

5. Verify that the delivery specialists have all the correct info that will be needed and try to counter any assumptions they may make. In our case, they were very confused by the fact that we have two different addresses - one physical address and one mailing address. All the paperwork they had ready for us was wrong and so we had to wait longer to get new paperwork. This could have easily been done correctly in advance if they'd just asked us about our addresses instead of making assumptions.

6. Learn as much about the car before taking delivery. Do not count on the staff to know what they're talking about. For instance, my delivery specialist who handled the face-to-face delivery said that our car only had AP1 hardware and that the software was not enabled. He claimed it would cost $$$ enable it. But in reality, the car had it enabled and we just didn't realize it until days later when I emailed about it. The guy in charge of our delivery was mainly there to handle paperwork and take our money, not to try to sell us upgrades (he never even offered to sell us a service package or any accessories).


For those who have been through the process, what else would you add?
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Also, PROS AND CONS OF BUYING USED FROM TESLA

PROS
- Used Teslas from Tesla come with a Tesla warranty. The length of the warranty varies on the age/mileage of the car
- I think that Tesla only sells used Teslas that have fewer than 100,000 miles on them
- Tesla used inventory is currently the largest
- Currently, prices from Tesla are lowest

CONS
- You cannot test drive used Teslas
- In order to even see the car you must put down a 'nonrefundable'* deposit (currently $2500)
(*You can often transfer the deposit to another car if you don't like the first one and there are stories of people getting refunds... this is likely a case by case issue)
- Because Tesla no longer transfer the used cars to their new owners, buyers will have to pay the taxes of whatever state they take delivery in regardless of where they live or where the car will be registered
 
What about looking at stock outside Tesla given that Tesla CPO don't seem to have any prep and their part ex is so poor?

There are sites now that compare both Tesla inventory and that outside Tesla to help you chose.
 
7. Yes, compare options by looking at AutoTrader, eBay Motors, etc. And check Kelley Blue Book to see what they say are going prices.

When I did that I found that the prices for what I wanted were better from Tesla than others but that the absolute lowest prices could be found outside of Tesla, plus my car came with the warranty and official Tesla inspection. Plus I read reviews of one of the used car sales companies and some people said a lot of their inventory were 'flood vehicles' as in the car was in a flood. I have read many bad things about Tesla's used car sales program but no one has said that!
 
7. Yes, compare options by looking at AutoTrader, eBay Motors, etc. And check Kelley Blue Book to see what they say are going prices.

When I did that I found that the prices for what I wanted were better from Tesla than others but that the absolute lowest prices could be found outside of Tesla, plus my car came with the warranty and official Tesla inspection. Plus I read reviews of one of the used car sales companies and some people said a lot of their inventory were 'flood vehicles' as in the car was in a flood. I have read many bad things about Tesla's used car sales program but no one has said that!

Sorry, my question didn't come across quote right,you started with Tesla inventory and I was questioning the logic of that given how badly they treat part ex and the cars. I wouldn't necessarily be looking for a Tesla car and checking it was good value, I'd be just wanting to find the best car.

If you want to compare the whole market, some of the Tesla Inventory sites now do that like tesla-info.com and have neat graphics that for a specific car how it compares to the market. Data is king nowadays for the buyer.
 
I would add a few other things.

Teslas purchased from dealers cannot get the extended warranty.

Purchasing from Tesla with a trade-in may have tax advantages depending on state laws. Often the trade-in value is deducted from the sales price before sales tax is calculated.

Out of state purchase in California require California state sales tax to be paid. Check your state tax laws to see how they handle this. A few states still require full tax to be paid when the car is registered. Most give credit for taxes already paid, which works out fine if your state taxes are higher than California (it could happen), but otherwise you will be paying more in sales/use tax.
 
I chuckled at the thought of casting some of those 640x480 images on to a big screen and zooming in.

All the pictures I received were bigger than that. To view them 'full size' took more room than I have on my laptop screen. Each photo was more than 1 megapixel.

I guess what I'm hearing is that there's no standard camera/setting used for the photos they take and send to potential customers.
 
Great thread @Eevee , I am sure it will be helpful for those in the market and hunting for a Tesla.

All the pictures I received were bigger than that. To view them 'full size' took more room than I have on my laptop screen. Each photo was more than 1 megapixel.

I guess what I'm hearing is that there's no standard camera/setting used for the photos they take and send to potential customers.

Confirmed, pic size, quality, and detail of damage are different depending on location and person taking the photo. I have seen some really good photo sets with descriptions and summaries and then others that are a Dropbox link with low res photos.

I believe Some are taken by a 3rd party like Manheim (the auction company that is partnering up w Tesla) so maybe the process change has started already.

This should also be noted to prospective buyers as it may change their process some.
Tesla partners with car auction firms to sell more used cars, report says

Other things to add:
- Tesla no longer refurbishes cars to CPO standards, they sell them as used cars (I guess this is assumed, but some may not already know this if just starting their search)

- prices start high and will drop significantly over the course of 1-2 weeks before hitting a bottom. At that point, it may bump back up some before dropping back down.

Example: a p85D will start around $68k and drop to low 50s, then bump back up to 55 then drop down. No ryhm or reason, patterns, or algorithm anyone can figure out.
 
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Im from Vegas too.
I heard from some local people they had very bad experience buying Tesla here in Vegas so im just waiting to see if that will improve.
Currently I don't have time to deal with all that mess.
Here in Vegas Tesla CPO cost more then anywhere else.
Same car, same mileage, same options here is 50k while in San Diego 44k !!
There are currently same Model S vehicles on Vegas Tesla website that are sitting there for weeks and months!
Nobody is buying them. Every day price change, goes up for 500-1000 $ then goes down.
 
And one more thing about trade-in.
Carmax is giving me 30.000.
Tesla told me it will be around 27.000.
When I mention that CARMAX offer is 30k they said "we will probably match that"
And he added "but there is no guarantee".
If I sell to Carmax I will lose tax credit.
My understanding is that trade in process with Tesla comes only at the end, when you accepted new car and signed all papers.
At that point there is no going back, and you have to accept their offer (which can be very low even if they promised you more at beginning)
 
Same car, same mileage, same options here is 50k while in San Diego 44k !!
I bought mine from San Diego and drove it home to Vegas :)
There was just a lot more to choose from in SoCal than here. And yeah, when comparing apples to apples, it seems like the prices in SoCal are lower. BUT buyer beware, the taxes are MUCH higher so it might not matter. I had to pay over $4k in taxes to Ca whereas I believe it would have been capped around $1k in Nevada.

My understanding is that trade in process with Tesla comes only at the end, when you accepted new car and signed all papers.
At that point there is no going back, and you have to accept their offer (which can be very low even if they promised you more at beginning)
We were told our trade-in quote well before we took delivery and signed papers. It was an actual offer posted as a document to my Tesla account. So I don't think they could have changed it to less at the last minute unless I showed up with the trade-in and it was in worse shape than when they made the offer.

But I guess if there were any negotiation about that perhaps it would have occurred during signing. We just didn't accept their trade-in offer. It was 2k less than CarMax. We actually haven't even sold it to CarMax yet though.

I don't think 'there's no going back.' I'm sure if you just said, 'I'm not doing the trade-in at this price' then they would just make up new paperwork without the trade-in.
 
And one more thing about trade-in.
Carmax is giving me 30.000.
Tesla told me it will be around 27.000.
When I mention that CARMAX offer is 30k they said "we will probably match that"
And he added "but there is no guarantee".
If I sell to Carmax I will lose tax credit.
My understanding is that trade in process with Tesla comes only at the end, when you accepted new car and signed all papers.
At that point there is no going back, and you have to accept their offer (which can be very low even if they promised you more at beginning)
To add to what Eevee said, I had my trade in completed and in Tesla’s hands a week before I picked up my car. My car was clear across the country so I took it to my nearest center (200 miles away) to do a “pre-tradein.” I would definitely work that out before you get that far in the process. They matched CarMax for me as well.
 
I'll be trading my car in to the Jacksonville service center on Friday, and then flying out to San Francisco to pick up mine.
They offered to match CarMax for me as well, and it took a bit of fighting with them, but I got the paperwork and Tesla Customer Portal to reflect the matched offer.