I could not agree more. We are getting ready to head out on our 5th long road trip (about 3000 miles this time) and it would really help to know the status at our next destination in advance. BTW, I received an email last Friday to alert me to the situation at Hawthorne which was helpful because I was thinking about stopping in on the way back from a LA trip. I adjusted our route and drove more conservatively and made it home with 30 miles range.Realtime SpC status is needed IMO. They've made some improvements like displaying if a station is experiencing problems, but even this has been far from perfect. Last weekend Hawthorne was closed yet there was no mention of this on the Nav display.
I definitely agree that they not only need real time status, but also historical status of that day. Like if it's a Friday at 5pm or something.
Data they already have, but have chosen not to share it with us for some reason.
I fail to see how occupancy status would help. For most of us (outside of California, and even some in California) we don't have a choice of stopping or not, we need to stop to charge to get where we're going. Even if we could detour to a different route, that decision would usually be made ahead of time and the occupancy at that moment will be different from when you get there. Finally, how do you know they'll be there like hours? Whether occupancy is reported or not, you don't know how long cars will be charging there.
Even if we could detour to a different route, that decision would usually be made ahead of time and the occupancy at that moment will be different from when you get there.
Whether occupancy is reported or not, you don't know how long cars will be charging there.
The writer has even managed to arrange automatic update of status for one of the superchargers (as the mall car park that it is installed in has that status available online
It seems like a lot of work for little benefit. I'd rather Tesla's supercharger team devote its efforts to increasing the number of locations and expanding existing ones if they're overcrowded. Which is what they've been good at doing so far. Even if I knew a certain location was historically busy at certain times, if I need to charge there, then I need to charge there. Understand I'm from Texas where our routes are straight lines and you can't skip a station and the only time anyone has ever had to wait was the day when owners were driving to Austin to see Elon-- actually I'm happy to see someone else charging when I am.@Texas - sure, so how about historical data as suggested above? I don't see how that could not be useful.
Unless you're local, I don't really see how real time status is going to help you much - at the time you're making decisions, you have a couple hours drive before you reach the Supercharger, during which the status is almost certain to change (unless it was all empty and remains that way, in which case it isn't an issue.)
What you do need, as Apacheguy touched on, is a projected status - what Tesla expects the availability to be at the time you would get there.
As I've said a couple times, I'm pretty sure this is coming in a little while. Once they get the Navigation routing through Superchargers working well and the interface on it sorted out, It's only natural to have it pull Supercharger statuses for the upcoming chargers. If Tesla sets up a server where they keep all of that information, the car can easily make "reservations" for you when it does the check. (The stalls would presumably still be first come-first served, this is just recording on the server your likely period of occupancy.)
If all the cars do that, suddenly Tesla knows that even though Gilroy is empty right now, in two hours it'll be full or overfilled by cars arriving from three different directions. The system can then respond by changing the navigation plans of cars currently charging at Harris Ranch, Petaluma, and Corning to charge higher and bypass Gilroy in favor of one of the other bay area stations (and route any new navigation plans entered around the station until the blockage clears or all the options are loaded.)
It's a cheap way for Tesla to improve the utility they get from the same hardware investment, so there's no doubt in my mind that some variation of this will be coming - possibly biased by historical data for different days/times at a given station in addition to the Navigation group-think described above.
That is an increase in capacity of this triplet of Superchargers of 41% just by providing good info to drivers and directing them to the least used Supercharger!
Of course, that is best case result, assuming all drivers use the info, but it is a very good direction without having to build more Superchargers.
You don't necessarily need all the drivers to listen - just a large enough percentage to alleviate the blockages. That's why I'm thinking the Nav integration is a critical piece of doing it right - when you're on a road trip running under the car's Navigation, it can show up in the same fashion as a traffic alert - "predicted 20 minute delay at Hawthorne SpC, re-route to avoid?" - and if it's connected in well with Nav and Autopilot, it can be almost seamless, with the car changing course and calculating new charge and arrival times on the fly.
I agree completely! It will take a reasonable percentage of users looking for idle Superchargers; is that fraction 30% or 75%; that will take some interesting simulations to figure out.
Hopefully, in the future, Tesla can do better than the current Nav through Chargers implementation. They certainly have set a low bar to get over for the next version...