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XHabjab
TSLA Bull
I drove by there today (sorry, no pix), and saw some hard hats working on the chargers. Still an open trench, so I think it will be a while yet.
Passed final inspection last week, if any locals wants to check it out.
Maybe for the Cybertruck, allow for someone to pull in with a trailer and not have to unhook/block others?
Finally on the in car nav! It wasn't there Monday, I considered trying it but Flatonia was a better option as I got there with around 30% less charge and therefore had better charging speeds. Hope to use this one soon!
RTPEV
Active Member
I'm thinking that part of the reason is that pull in stalls make more sense in general (I'm sure plenty of people are of the opposite opinion, but I suspect that's mostly because of trying to defend what has become the de facto standard for most Superchargers). But when installing a new Supercharger site, if you want to minimize rip-up of pavement and simplify the installation, you install the pedestals at the edge or just past the existing pavement. Surely when Tesla was first starting the Supercharger rollout they were not in a position to dictate or negotiate extensive pavement rip-ups, so the standard became back-in stalls.
But in parking lots where you simply can't avoid ripping up the pavement, or new construction, they have more options and they can install the more natural pull-in style pedestals.
Here is an example of a site where the parking lot layout dictated a center of the pavement location, which meant that the pavement was going to be ripped up anyway, so you might as well make pull in style. Plus diagonal parking like this definitely does not allow for back-in style stalls:
This particular site (St. George, SC) is at a grocery store, where pull-in stalls make even more sense (so you can more easily load groceries into your trunk).
That said, I've been to this particular site and the ergonomics of this layout is actually horrible. It's very awkward to plug the cord into your car.
Personally I hope that long term we evolve into a more "island" type of layout, similar to gas pumps. This will be even more important if/when Superchargers are opened to other car makes with charge ports located in different parts of the car, as well as supporting large vehicles like Cybertrucks and those with trailers/hitches.
Good points. I also think that perhaps this style of stall is less likely to be iced. It LOOKS like a gas pump stall, as opposed to a parking space with a funny looking thing in the back.I'm thinking that part of the reason is that pull in stalls make more sense in general (I'm sure plenty of people are of the opposite opinion, but I suspect that's mostly because of trying to defend what has become the de facto standard for most Superchargers). But when installing a new Supercharger site, if you want to minimize rip-up of pavement and simplify the installation, you install the pedestals at the edge or just past the existing pavement. Surely when Tesla was first starting the Supercharger rollout they were not in a position to dictate or negotiate extensive pavement rip-ups, so the standard became back-in stalls.
But in parking lots where you simply can't avoid ripping up the pavement, or new construction, they have more options and they can install the more natural pull-in style pedestals.
Here is an example of a site where the parking lot layout dictated a center of the pavement location, which meant that the pavement was going to be ripped up anyway, so you might as well make pull in style. Plus diagonal parking like this definitely does not allow for back-in style stalls:
This particular site (St. George, SC) is at a grocery store, where pull-in stalls make even more sense (so you can more easily load groceries into your trunk).
That said, I've been to this particular site and the ergonomics of this layout is actually horrible. It's very awkward to plug the cord into your car.
Personally I hope that long term we evolve into a more "island" type of layout, similar to gas pumps. This will be even more important if/when Superchargers are opened to other car makes with charge ports located in different parts of the car, as well as supporting large vehicles like Cybertrucks and those with trailers/hitches.
take a look at the pictures of the Round Rock setup, the stalls are back to back, presumably to make installation easier.I'm thinking that part of the reason is that pull in stalls make more sense in general (I'm sure plenty of people are of the opposite opinion, but I suspect that's mostly because of trying to defend what has become the de facto standard for most Superchargers). But when installing a new Supercharger site, if you want to minimize rip-up of pavement and simplify the installation, you install the pedestals at the edge or just past the existing pavement. Surely when Tesla was first starting the Supercharger rollout they were not in a position to dictate or negotiate extensive pavement rip-ups, so the standard became back-in stalls.
But in parking lots where you simply can't avoid ripping up the pavement, or new construction, they have more options and they can install the more natural pull-in style pedestals.
Here is an example of a site where the parking lot layout dictated a center of the pavement location, which meant that the pavement was going to be ripped up anyway, so you might as well make pull in style. Plus diagonal parking like this definitely does not allow for back-in style stalls:
This particular site (St. George, SC) is at a grocery store, where pull-in stalls make even more sense (so you can more easily load groceries into your trunk).
That said, I've been to this particular site and the ergonomics of this layout is actually horrible. It's very awkward to plug the cord into your car.
Personally I hope that long term we evolve into a more "island" type of layout, similar to gas pumps. This will be even more important if/when Superchargers are opened to other car makes with charge ports located in different parts of the car, as well as supporting large vehicles like Cybertrucks and those with trailers/hitches.
Went for a quick charge here today. Very busy - not a bad location overall (RIGHT on 130, easy right turn going South) - but, there really isnt anything besides this convenience store around for miles? I went by to see state of the Gigafactory (it's 1 exit down), but nothing else really there to occupy you while you charge. Just a heads up. I will say that on the way from there to the factory I took the backroad and saw a whole line of black model Y's with no license plates pulled over at the corner of FM973 and Tesla (Harold Green) - looked like a testing fleet maybe?
Heard thru the grapevine that the superchargers inside GigaTexas show up in the app. I'm not close enough to check it, but is this true?
XHabjab
TSLA Bull
Interesting, but which app? They're not in PlugShare, which I consider the primary app relevant to charging.
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