Moderator note: The first 8 pages of this thread are a merge of posts from 3 different threads about the Boardman, OR Supercharger.
Man, had to drive home from Seattle last night when the pass was restricted to chains only and then closed for awhile due to accidents. I went south to Vancouver and then along I-84 back up to the Tri Cities in my SR+ and I really could have used a Boardman, OR supercharger!
My 2019 SR+ is running 18" xIce winter tires at 45psi with aero caps on. Due to heavy rain from Seattle to Vancouver I noticed I was averaging about 315 wh/mi with an average speed around 50 to 60 mph (heavy traffic most the way). I had the heat set to about 68F and was using the heated seat on 2 and 3 during the segment.
I paid closer attention to my efficiency between Vancouver, WA and The Dalles since it was still very heavy rain with a lot of standing water on the roadway. At a steady 65 mph with same climate settings my usage increased to 328 wh/mi or a range of approx 152 miles if I used 100% to 0% of the battery. From the Dalles supercharger to my home in Richland, WA is 147 miles. To the Kennewick, WA supercharger is 130 miles, and to Pendleton Supercharger is 134 miles.
Obviously charging above 80% takes MUCH longer. There were only two cars at the Dalles supercharger (counting myself) so I didn't feel like I was hogging it up or anything and I was fine with a nice rest, so I spend about 40 to 50 minutes charging to 94% (approx 47kWh on a battery with no degradation). At my previous efficiency this gave me a maximum range of 143 miles. I would be a little short of getting home, but I should be able to make either of those superchargers. I also had checked the radar and saw that about 20 miles East of the Dalles the rain stopped but it picked up again right about at the I-82 interchange. I gambled that I could reduce my power usage and make it. Sure enough roads dried up and with setting the heat back down to about 66F I was able to drop down to about 280 wh/mi, I felt fairly safe that I would make it home but was a little cool and going 65 mph when the speed limit in this area was actually 70 mph. Going eastbound you actually climb at a fairly gradual slope for a long time. It started raining again about 10 miles before the I-82 interchange and I saw my power usage creep up a little bit again.What I DID NOT expect was that as soon as I crossed the river and into WA there was a BUNCH of snow and slush on the highway. I would say between 1 and 2 inches between slush and fresh powder. Even with slowing down to about 50 mph due to the heavy snow my power usage went way up and I started getting worried again a little bit. I cut the heat back even more (down to 62 F) and stopped using the heated seat. It's only about 30 miles but any gains I had made from slower driving and lower heat from the Dalles to this point started being washed away.
I ended up pulling in at home with about 7% battery left. That sounds like a lot when my destination is my home and I can plug in as soon as I get out of the car... but when you think about options it's not very much. That was approx 11 or 12 miles and even at the best ~225 wh/mi would have been about 16 miles. That could have got me over to the Kennewick supercharger but not really many other options since I don't have a chademo adapter and level 2 would have been painful at 1am in the morning after leaving Seattle at 3pm.
If it had been solid rain from the Dalles I don't think I would have made it without setting the heat down to 60F the whole time or even turning it off for segments. Personally I can deal with that on these edge cases (bad weather, winter tires, standing water, low temps, etc) BUT, if I had a passenger I think they would have thought it was NUTS to buy a Tesla Model 3... especially when I spent ~$42k on it. If I had kids I think they would have been upset at 60 to 64F and the back seats aren't heated. Heating the passenger seat would also have added to the drain and if we ever get a chance to activate the rear seats, families are going to see a much larger power drain with all four running.
We've come a long way and I think the SR+ is suitable for most cases (it got me home after all), but man you really have to think about the weather and your driving habits still. 240 miles of range turned into ~150 miles and could have been like 140 miles if I hadn't had a break in the rain.
Tesla needs to get on Oregon and build out more superchargers. They're doing a bang up job in WA right now, but having to charge to 90%+ is slow and painful AND uses a space up much longer than it should.
(I wouldn't have actually had much luck with the Chademo adapter either since there is only a single location in Arlington that's said to only be 25kW! Otherwise I would have had to overshoot a little bit into Hermiston to use the ones at Space Age Fuel. After driving there and backtracking, a 15 minute charge would only have gained me an additional 30 miles based on this trips power usage. Could be the difference between home and not, but for $450 for the adapter AND another 15 minutes on a 10 hr trip for what normally takes under 4 hours that's rough...)
Man, had to drive home from Seattle last night when the pass was restricted to chains only and then closed for awhile due to accidents. I went south to Vancouver and then along I-84 back up to the Tri Cities in my SR+ and I really could have used a Boardman, OR supercharger!
My 2019 SR+ is running 18" xIce winter tires at 45psi with aero caps on. Due to heavy rain from Seattle to Vancouver I noticed I was averaging about 315 wh/mi with an average speed around 50 to 60 mph (heavy traffic most the way). I had the heat set to about 68F and was using the heated seat on 2 and 3 during the segment.
I paid closer attention to my efficiency between Vancouver, WA and The Dalles since it was still very heavy rain with a lot of standing water on the roadway. At a steady 65 mph with same climate settings my usage increased to 328 wh/mi or a range of approx 152 miles if I used 100% to 0% of the battery. From the Dalles supercharger to my home in Richland, WA is 147 miles. To the Kennewick, WA supercharger is 130 miles, and to Pendleton Supercharger is 134 miles.
Obviously charging above 80% takes MUCH longer. There were only two cars at the Dalles supercharger (counting myself) so I didn't feel like I was hogging it up or anything and I was fine with a nice rest, so I spend about 40 to 50 minutes charging to 94% (approx 47kWh on a battery with no degradation). At my previous efficiency this gave me a maximum range of 143 miles. I would be a little short of getting home, but I should be able to make either of those superchargers. I also had checked the radar and saw that about 20 miles East of the Dalles the rain stopped but it picked up again right about at the I-82 interchange. I gambled that I could reduce my power usage and make it. Sure enough roads dried up and with setting the heat back down to about 66F I was able to drop down to about 280 wh/mi, I felt fairly safe that I would make it home but was a little cool and going 65 mph when the speed limit in this area was actually 70 mph. Going eastbound you actually climb at a fairly gradual slope for a long time. It started raining again about 10 miles before the I-82 interchange and I saw my power usage creep up a little bit again.What I DID NOT expect was that as soon as I crossed the river and into WA there was a BUNCH of snow and slush on the highway. I would say between 1 and 2 inches between slush and fresh powder. Even with slowing down to about 50 mph due to the heavy snow my power usage went way up and I started getting worried again a little bit. I cut the heat back even more (down to 62 F) and stopped using the heated seat. It's only about 30 miles but any gains I had made from slower driving and lower heat from the Dalles to this point started being washed away.
I ended up pulling in at home with about 7% battery left. That sounds like a lot when my destination is my home and I can plug in as soon as I get out of the car... but when you think about options it's not very much. That was approx 11 or 12 miles and even at the best ~225 wh/mi would have been about 16 miles. That could have got me over to the Kennewick supercharger but not really many other options since I don't have a chademo adapter and level 2 would have been painful at 1am in the morning after leaving Seattle at 3pm.
If it had been solid rain from the Dalles I don't think I would have made it without setting the heat down to 60F the whole time or even turning it off for segments. Personally I can deal with that on these edge cases (bad weather, winter tires, standing water, low temps, etc) BUT, if I had a passenger I think they would have thought it was NUTS to buy a Tesla Model 3... especially when I spent ~$42k on it. If I had kids I think they would have been upset at 60 to 64F and the back seats aren't heated. Heating the passenger seat would also have added to the drain and if we ever get a chance to activate the rear seats, families are going to see a much larger power drain with all four running.
We've come a long way and I think the SR+ is suitable for most cases (it got me home after all), but man you really have to think about the weather and your driving habits still. 240 miles of range turned into ~150 miles and could have been like 140 miles if I hadn't had a break in the rain.
Tesla needs to get on Oregon and build out more superchargers. They're doing a bang up job in WA right now, but having to charge to 90%+ is slow and painful AND uses a space up much longer than it should.
(I wouldn't have actually had much luck with the Chademo adapter either since there is only a single location in Arlington that's said to only be 25kW! Otherwise I would have had to overshoot a little bit into Hermiston to use the ones at Space Age Fuel. After driving there and backtracking, a 15 minute charge would only have gained me an additional 30 miles based on this trips power usage. Could be the difference between home and not, but for $450 for the adapter AND another 15 minutes on a 10 hr trip for what normally takes under 4 hours that's rough...)
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