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Supercharger - Burns, OR (or Hines, OR)

mociaf9

Active Member
Oct 18, 2018
2,543
5,148
CA
Racers, start your engines! Wait...ummm, you all want to drive through here in EVs, right? So, I guess... Racers, get ready to stop your engines! :D

I found Tesla's electrical permit application (389-20-000147-ELEC) for a supercharger at the Rite Aid on US-20/US-395 in Hines, OR--it's just barely outside Burns' city limits, hence the Hines address. The application was submitted on 2020-05-06 and so far doesn't show any further activity. It doesn't explicitly say it's for a supercharger, just Tesla "charging stations". But there's indirect confirmation in there to convince me. 1) It lists the new service as being over 1000A -- which doesn't make sense for a small station with only L2 charging. 2) One of the attached documents shows the direct applicant actually being someone from GPD Group on behalf of Tesla. GPD are Tesla's consulting engineers on almost all of their supercharger builds in this region.

What: Tesla plans to build a supercharger with an unknown number of stalls (but likely 8 V3) at the Rite Aid just outside Burns, OR.
Address: 629 North Highway 20, Hines, OR 97738

GPS (guess): 43.573066, -119.074657

@Chuq @MarcoRP
 

acarney

Active Member
Jul 9, 2019
2,434
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Richland, WA
Racers, start your engines! Wait...ummm, you all want to drive through here in EVs, right? So, I guess... Racers, get ready to stop your engines! :D

I found Tesla's electrical permit application (389-20-000147-ELEC) for a supercharger at the Rite Aid on US-20/US-395 in Hines, OR--it's just barely outside Burns' city limits, hence the Hines address. The application was submitted on 2020-05-06 and so far doesn't show any further activity. It doesn't explicitly say it's for a supercharger, just Tesla "charging stations". But there's indirect confirmation in there to convince me. 1) It lists the new service as being over 1000A -- which doesn't make sense for a small station with only L2 charging. 2) One of the attached documents shows the direct applicant actually being someone from GPD Group on behalf of Tesla. GPD are Tesla's consulting engineers on almost all of their supercharger builds in this region.

What: Tesla plans to build a supercharger with an unknown number of stalls (but likely 8 V3) at the Rite Aid just outside Burns, OR.
Address: 629 North Highway 20, Hines, OR 97738

GPS (guess): 43.573066, -119.074657

@Chuq @MarcoRP
How exactly did you find that? I’ve been searching that database for “Tesla” as the project name almost daily for the last couple months and haven’t seen anything...
 

Rocky_H

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Feb 19, 2015
6,106
7,087
Boise, ID
How exactly did you find that? I’ve been searching that database for “Tesla” as the project name almost daily for the last couple months and haven’t seen anything...
Interesting. I've been repeatedly checking the Oregon permit database for months, but I always just put in "Burns" in the city and look through ALL of the permits in case the owner was listed differently, like a contractor. I never even considered that the city limits would be that small that it could be listed within a different city jurisdiction but still basically be in Burns.

*Edit* And you know, that's right where I thought it would be. Every time I've driven through there, I saw the gigantic parking lot of that Erickson's supermarket, and I figured that would be the place where it would go.
 
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mociaf9

Active Member
Oct 18, 2018
2,543
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How exactly did you find that? I’ve been searching that database for “Tesla” as the project name almost daily for the last couple months and haven’t seen anything...
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For real, though, it was a bit of an accident. I was looking for something else, though I can't remember what right now, and didn't find it by using the global search so I had to change tactics. I think the exact search sting I used was "*charg*" in the project name field, no quotes but using the asterisks. With the wildcards, this returned all permits with any variation on charger, charging, superchargers, etc. anywhere in the project name. Then I went through the list and looked at any that were permits for commercial building or electrical work.
 

acarney

Active Member
Jul 9, 2019
2,434
1,503
Richland, WA
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For real, though, it was a bit of an accident. I was looking for something else, though I can't remember what right now, and didn't find it by using the global search so I had to change tactics. I think the exact search sting I used was "*charg*" in the project name field, no quotes but using the asterisks. With the wildcards, this returned all permits with any variation on charger, charging, superchargers, etc. anywhere in the project name. Then I went through the list and looked at any that were permits for commercial building or electrical work.

Good job on finding it! That Oregon permit system isn’t great for searching for stuff... OneCall usually always has “work done for Tesla” so it’s a lot easier to find supercharger permits...
 

MarcoRP

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Sep 6, 2017
4,958
9,427
Montréal
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For real, though, it was a bit of an accident. I was looking for something else, though I can't remember what right now, and didn't find it by using the global search so I had to change tactics. I think the exact search sting I used was "*charg*" in the project name field, no quotes but using the asterisks. With the wildcards, this returned all permits with any variation on charger, charging, superchargers, etc. anywhere in the project name. Then I went through the list and looked at any that were permits for commercial building or electrical work.
Do the asterisks work on all Accela platforms?
 

mociaf9

Active Member
Oct 18, 2018
2,543
5,148
CA
Do the asterisks work on all Accela platforms?
I think some don't use them, but I'm not totally sure. And they won't always work in every field even for locations that allow them in some places. Another wild card I've also seen used is %, so if asterisk doesn't work you can also try that.
 

EV-lutioin

Active Member
Apr 2, 2016
1,931
2,676
California
This one has been needed for a long time! Now our Boise friends need one between Boise and Winnemucca, NV so they can get to CA more directly.
 

Rocky_H

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Feb 19, 2015
6,106
7,087
Boise, ID
This one has been needed for a long time! Now our Boise friends need one between Boise and Winnemucca, NV so they can get to CA more directly.
Yeah, I heard recently that that route down to Winnemucca got an unfortunate twist. Greenlots had put in a couple of DC fast charging stations, which was cool, but they only have CHAdeMO or CCS. Because of Covid-19, the Say When Casino in McDermitt has shut down, and the J1772 wall connectors are not available. So if you don't have a CHAdeMO adapter, this route doesn't work well right now, because there seems to be no good AC charging along the way.
 

5170304

Member
Apr 27, 2019
52
172
Willows, CA
Interesting. I've been repeatedly checking the Oregon permit database for months, but I always just put in "Burns" in the city and look through ALL of the permits in case the owner was listed differently, like a contractor. I never even considered that the city limits would be that small that it could be listed within a different city jurisdiction but still basically be in Burns.

*Edit* And you know, that's right where I thought it would be. Every time I've driven through there, I saw the gigantic parking lot of that Erickson's supermarket, and I figured that would be the place where it would go.
Same here.
 

GHammer

What a long strange trip its been.
Feb 1, 2016
877
1,947
Wren, Oregon
Interesting. I've been repeatedly checking the Oregon permit database for months, but I always just put in "Burns" in the city and look through ALL of the permits in case the owner was listed differently, like a contractor. I never even considered that the city limits would be that small that it could be listed within a different city jurisdiction but still basically be in Burns.
I should have known better. I had a fraternity brother in college that was from Hines, he hated being called from Burns so of course we always did.
 

skip8jj

Member
Aug 19, 2015
261
110
Portland, OR
Hines super\charger, great. It looks like 220 miles from there to Winnimucca, NV. Thats doable without Say When. Better route than via 84 and Boise. Hope it is installed before October. Assuming Covid situation is improved to permit a trip.
 

mociaf9

Active Member
Oct 18, 2018
2,543
5,148
CA
Permit is now showing a status of "Ready to Issue" meaning it's been approved and is just waiting for Tesla to pay any outstanding fees and for their contractor to come pick it up. So, once all the parties are ready, they may be able to start pretty quick. Note, however, that this permit is just for the electrical and a building permit that covers the rest of the work may be handled separately by Hines.
 
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upinatem

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Jan 15, 2017
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Idaho
Just a reminder too, they’ve apparently got a ChargePoint installed in Burns now at the same spot that J-1772 has been with CHAdeMO and CCS now, so if you’ve got the adapter, and especially if Tesla releases a CCS adapter like they’re supposed to sometime this year, this will get you by until this supercharger is ready.
Harney County Chamber of Commerce
484 N Broadway Ave, Burns, OR 97720, USA

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