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Supercharger - Carlton, MN
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DMC5180
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No, just the current V3 250 kWh version. That’s not to say they wouldn’t be able to uprate them with Software for a higher output. That was done with many V2’s. When they went from 120 kWh to 145 kWh with a software change.
DeepBlueMN
2019 AWD Model 3
DMC5180
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Yes, I’ve seen labels on V3 pedestals indicating 350kw max rating.
DMC5180
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Construction day 28 update. The concrete base for SuC cabinets and switch gear is finished. The 1000kVA transformer is installed. The concrete forms for the pedestal island curbing has been constructed. I expect it will be poured in the next day or two. All of the leftover rigid conduit has been removed. This was supplied locally. There are 12 rolls of 4” seal tight flexible conduit which came from Tesla energy. Only one roll was used. They will likely get shipped to another SuC location. The switch gear cabinets don’t appear to be onsite yet.
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JohnSnowNW
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Well, it's unfortunate that it won't be ready by this weekend. Guess we'll be jockeying for position with everyone else in Duluth.
Maybe it will be ready next weekend...
Maybe it will be ready next weekend...
DMC5180
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Construction day 29 update. More curb form construction on the south end today and all the large wire spools were delivered today. Very large aluminum conductor wire.
As someone who just used a trailer in his model y for the first time, I wonder if the layout with one “back in” on the east side is actually to accommodate pulling up with a trailer parallel with the row of chargers . Really hope to see this design take off, the current “pull in” option for trailers is ridiculous because your trailer ends up sticking out into the middle of the parking lot, and in Duluth would block the other chargers.
DMC5180
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You know, that’s an interesting thought. It’s very possible. Given the relatively low amount of vehicles I’ve seen in the parking lot when checking the site, they could easily give up those spaces for a an extended parallel parking zone for Trailer pulling vehicle charging.
DMC5180
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Construction day 35 update (7/28): new arrivals on site include switch gear cabinets and shrubbery for landscaping the south end for camouflaging the equipment cabinets and transformer. The curb form appears to be ready for concrete. The Ballard posts are set. There will be two posts for the lone east side pedestal.
DMC5180
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Construction day 36 update! We have concrete!!! That’s a big change in the matter of 24 hours. By the end of next week we should see all the pedestals and equipment boxes in place.
Hopefully in a year or two I can drop by here and charge my CyberTruck while I'm hauling my Wrangler up to Gilbert for some off roading. From what I can see, Duluth's supercharger is inside a parking garage, so I won't be towing into there, and I don't really want to drop a trailer+jeep off in downtown Duluth.
We'll have to see what the efficiency works out to, but I'm assuming for worst case scenarios and using 1200 Wh/mi as a reference point. At those numbers, this supercharger is 100% necessary (MSP <-> Hinckley <-> Carlton <-> Gilbert) unless I want to L2 charge in Virginia while off roading. That's all well and good unless the Jeep breaks down (it does) and I'm left hiking 7 miles to pick up the truck.
We'll have to see what the efficiency works out to, but I'm assuming for worst case scenarios and using 1200 Wh/mi as a reference point. At those numbers, this supercharger is 100% necessary (MSP <-> Hinckley <-> Carlton <-> Gilbert) unless I want to L2 charge in Virginia while off roading. That's all well and good unless the Jeep breaks down (it does) and I'm left hiking 7 miles to pick up the truck.
I think it makes sense here for people heading up to the iron range via Hwy 33, so they don’t have to go to Duluth. And yes, the physical space constraints and V2 chargers in Duluth can serve that area while this open lot V3 will probably take the lion’s share of charging traffic (my guess).
. Ownership is growing rapidly, and I don't want to end up like California, **shivers** waiting in line for a charger.
JohnSnowNW
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So, I ended up charging in Duluth on the trip up last week, but skipped it on the way down (charged and hiked at Tettegouche State Park). I arrived in Duluth and was able to snag the last two spots on the way up. Ended up moving both our cars from the stalls before we were ready to continue the trip because people were waiting to charge.
Carlton SC can't some soon enough, really.
Carlton SC can't some soon enough, really.
Photo stolen from MN Tesla FB group. Poster said opening Aug 14, no idea what the source is.
DMC5180
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That's a big change for 2 day's work since my last visit Thursday evening.
The opening date source was likely one of the crew working at the site when the photo was taken.
The opening date source was likely one of the crew working at the site when the photo was taken.
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DMC5180
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Construction day 42 update! Things are moving fast. All equipment work appears to be finished. All signs are up, with 3 north pedestals and 1 east side pedestal marked 30 min general parking. The 4 pedestals nearest the Chargers are Tesla charging only. As was suggested in an earlier post, the single east side pedestal does appear to be a pull through installation. The original parking lines on the east side have been blacked out while the west side lines remain. There are 3-6 more shrubs yet to set and perhaps a little more fill dirt before the area gets covered in red mulch. The physical site construction should be complete this week. Then it’s a matter of site clean up. It’s definitely a strong possibility it will get tested next week. This will be my only update for the week. I won’t be back till next Tuesday.
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tharasix
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That pull through one is awesome. Much better design than some of the long stalls that you still need trailer backing skillz for.
It looks like 1,050 Wh/mi (@ 65 mph) is the break even point where you can tow all the way to the Iron Range from Minneapolis without having to un-hook to charge at Hinckley. I'm guessing towing a Wrangler on a 16' trailer will take anywhere from 800 to 1,200 Wh/mi.
The question then is if stretching that thin and dealing with slow charges near max SoC is worth it when you're going to stop in Hinckley to hit the bathroom and coat your arteries in sweet roll goo anyway.
The question then is if stretching that thin and dealing with slow charges near max SoC is worth it when you're going to stop in Hinckley to hit the bathroom and coat your arteries in sweet roll goo anyway.
Waypoint | Arrival SoC | Depart SoC | Charge Duration | Distance | Drive Duration |
| Woodbury (where I'm at) | 100% | 136 mi | 1h 50m | ||
| Carlton Supercharger | 12% | 90% | 47m | 62 mi | 58m |
| Gilbert | 54% | 54% | 62 mi | 57m | |
| Carlton Supercharger | 18% | 100% | 1h 2m | 135 mi | 1h 50m |
| Woodbury | 12% | ||||
| Total | 1h 49m | 394 mi | 5h 35m |
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