Supercharger - Lake Arrowhead, CA (LIVE 17 Nov 2021, 8 V3 stalls)

[Watts_Up]

The Tesla.com/FindUs Webpage for the Lake Arrowhead, CA
provides a Google Map location that can be used to localise the Supercharger location,
but I agree that there should be additional information to help finding
the underground entrance (which was mentioned in the TMC Thread #96) .

1. Here is the underground location entrance:

2. Here is the garage entrance using the Village Road's Goole map street view:

 

[4SUPER9]

I find it funny that I have been to this village at least a dozen times, and never knew that where I parked was on top of an underground parking structure.

 

[Watts_Up]

I find it funny that I have been to this village at least a dozen times, and never knew that where I parked was on top of an underground parking structure.

This sign near the garage entrance should mention the EV charging location:

 

[GoBlue88]

Charged here yesterday. What a great find - really made my trip to Lake Arrowhead nicer. Glad I saw this thread a couple of days ago, because it didn't appear on the map in my car. Drove into the parking structure up to level 3 and there it is! Such a great spot to plug in and go walk along the lakefront for 15-20 minutes while charging up.

 

[Oil Freedom]

Yes, and Big Bear Lake needs some Superchargers too!

 

[beachmiles]

Yes, and Big Bear Lake needs some Superchargers too!

Big bear needs any kind of public chargers. Thankfully the remax up there just added a few tesla chargers but those were taken half the time. Maybe Musk hates big bear? Strange that the other ev charging companies have failed to do anything as well for such a large winter town so close to LA.
I emailed the city about it over a year ago and they claimed to be adding public chargers in a few of the public parking lots but I didn't see any evidence when I was up there a couple months ago.

 

[Oil Freedom]

Big bear needs any kind of public chargers. Thankfully the remax up there just added a few tesla chargers but those were taken half the time. Maybe Musk hates big bear? Strange that the other ev charging companies have failed to do anything as well for such a large winter town so close to LA.
I emailed the city about it over a year ago and they claimed to be adding public chargers in a few of the public parking lots but I didn't see any evidence when I was up there a couple months ago.

Agree. All talk and no action for two years now.

 

[iamnid]

This sign near the garage entrance should mention the EV charging location:

If you enter the parking garage from the other direction (the main road into the village, shown as photo #2 in your previous post), there's a tesla sign near where the "clearance" sign is in this photo indicating the supercharger is on the top floor.

 

[RickParker]

Agree. All talk and no action for two years now.

I don't think Musk hates Big Bear. There is likely a better reason. No nearby freeway, too few Tesla owners in Big Bear, no business owners that see cost benefit analysis and most of all in my sense - energy from PGE is virtually unavailable. Right a ways, public sentiment. Arrowhead has a different demographic. My sense, somebody in Arrowhead leveraged a relationship to install SuC. Don't know but maybe ownership of the shopping center saw the benefit. #justsayin

 

[Dave EV]

I don't think Musk hates Big Bear. There is likely a better reason. No nearby freeway, too few Tesla owners in Big Bear, no business owners that see cost benefit analysis and most of all in my sense - energy from PGE is virtually unavailable. Right a ways, public sentiment. Arrowhead has a different demographic. My sense, somebody in Arrowhead leveraged a relationship to install SuC. Don't know but maybe ownership of the shopping center saw the benefit. #justsayin

Last time I was in Big Bear, there was tons of Teslas up there. I guarantee a Supercharger would be well used.

Luckily, it's not hard to SC up to 80-90% at the bottom, get to the top and have enough to cruise around town for a few days (getting back down the hill you can actually pick up some charge), but much longer than that, a Supercharger would be really nice, but even more L2 charging would be helpful.

 

[4SUPER9]

Last time I was in Big Bear, there was tons of Teslas up there. I guarantee a Supercharger would be well used.

Luckily, it's not hard to SC up to 80-90% at the bottom, get to the top and have enough to cruise around town for a few days (getting back down the hill you can actually pick up some charge), but much longer than that, a Supercharger would be really nice, but even more L2 charging would be helpful.

Agreed. Though, if you are up there for a few days, even charging overnight with a 110 outlet can add 50 miles. My last trip to Arrowhead, I just plugged in for a day with a 50' extension cord, and got a full charge.

I do understand Arrowhead first, as BB would be way out of the way for people going to Arrowhead, Crestline, etc. BB is definitely a destination, with no through traffic whatsoever (yes, you can drive through, but that is unusual for most). The ski resorts would be wise to put in a bank of L2 chargers (blink, etc.)

 

[Oil Freedom]

I don't think Musk hates Big Bear. There is likely a better reason. No nearby freeway, too few Tesla owners in Big Bear, no business owners that see cost benefit analysis and most of all in my sense - energy from PGE is virtually unavailable. Right a ways, public sentiment. Arrowhead has a different demographic. My sense, somebody in Arrowhead leveraged a relationship to install SuC. Don't know but maybe ownership of the shopping center saw the benefit. #justsayin

No, I don't think Musk hates Big Bear Lake or any other location, and that wasn't my point. The town itself has been talking about getting various chargers, including Superchargers, for at least two years now.

 

[Oil Freedom]

Since I got us off topic for this thread, here's the correct one: Big Bear - where to charge?

 

[cybergates]

finally big bear/lake arrowhead area gets a charger! Hard for the older Model S otherwise to make it up and down with some margin esp in winter.

 

[PLUS EV]

This one is currently showing as Temporary Closure in the Nav. Does anyone have some current information?

 

[rickerwdi]

I checked just the other day and it was back on the nav. I'm assuming maybe SCE was doing line maintenace or something. They've been doing a lot of work up there.

 

[PLUS EV]

I checked just the other day and it was back on the nav. I'm assuming maybe SCE was doing line maintenace or something. They've been doing a lot of work up there.

It was probably a glitch but I never went up there to check. I say this because two days later I was at the new supercharger in Kingman, AZ and it was also showing offline in the Nav, but when I got there 3 of us were charging with no problem.

 

[Mark Z]

This location helps the drivers who need extra range in the mountains. There is a concern for those who charge up fully before driving down the mountain. About 13 miles regenerate back into the battery when returning to San Bernardino. For example, I would only charge my Model S to 70% or less so there is charge space for quality regenerative braking. Drivers should not overcharge the battery at the top of a mountain. Your friction brakes would suffer since regenerative braking works well to limit needing the brake pedal at several fast corners during the downhill drive.

 

[4SUPER9]

This location helps the drivers who need extra range in the mountains. There is a concern for those who charge up fully before driving down the mountain. About 13 miles regenerate back into the battery when returning to San Bernardino. For example, I would only charge my Model S to 70% or less so there is charge space for quality regenerative braking. Drivers should not overcharge the battery at the top of a mountain. Your friction brakes would suffer since regenerative braking works well to limit needing the brake pedal at several fast corners during the downhill drive.

I would think 80%, probable even 90%, would allow for full regen. 100% would be a waste, for the reasons you mentioned

 

[PLUS EV]

Yeah probably 85-90% is fine.

Anyways, I was meaning to post in this thread. Was here a week ago and the nav directions to the supercharger were nearly useless. The signage in the parking garage (once I even figured out the supercharger was in the garage or that there even was a garage lol) weren't much better. It reminded me of 2016-17 when the Nav directions to superchargers always sucked lol.