Supercharger - Lisbon, CT

[mociaf9]

Tesla to install new superchargers at Lisbon Landing shopping mall, right off 395 in Lisbon, CT. Supposedly, a building permit has already been issued, but if so they've had it for a while now (maybe since the beginning of fall) and I don't think there's been any activity on it yet.

Address: 160 River Rd., Lisbon, CT; 06351
What: 12 stall Supercharger station, not explicitly stated but almost certainly 120 kW
GPS (placeholder): 41.585421, -71.991114 [no idea where in the many parking lots this actually end up going]


https://www.ewcupdate.com/userfiles/lisbonct_com/file/PZCm040318.pdf [PDF]

Tesla Motors -- Zoning Permit Application -- 160 River Road
Installation of 12 Tesla Motors Supercharger Electric Vehicle Charging Stations... at Lisbon Landing, 160 River Road, Lisbon, CT

@BlueShift @Chuq

 

[EdA]

Good find! Wish it were closer to I-95 but it works...

 

[MarcoRP]

Good find! Wish it were closer to I-95 but it works...

I think this is just an opening for the I 395 HWY rather than the I95

 

[wcorey]

Tesla to install new superchargers at Lisbon Landing shopping mall, right off 395 in Lisbon, CT. Supposedly, a building permit has already been issued, but if so they've had it for a while now (maybe since the beginning of fall) and I don't think there's been any activity on it yet.

Address: 160 River Rd., Lisbon, CT; 06351
What: 12 stall Supercharger station, not explicitly stated but almost certainly 120 kW
GPS (placeholder): 41.585421, -71.991114 [no idea where in the many parking lots this actually end up going]


https://www.ewcupdate.com/userfiles/lisbonct_com/file/PZCm040318.pdf [PDF]

@BlueShift @Chuq

That's excellent! We go to the movies down there often. It's only 20 miles away so I doubt I'd need to avail myself of it but, hey, "build it and they will come". It would be good to have one in the Groton/New London area as well as 395/101 intersection.
Allow me to take this opportunity to encourage all Tesla owners in CT to reach out to their state Reps and Senators to tell them to vote YES to allow Tesla to do business and sell cars in CT directly w/o the Mt Kisco nonsense! #PSA

 

[pinball_player]

This is perfect. We drive from Metrowest Mass to Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods on a regular basis (Mohegan sun for women's Basketball and Foxwoods for shows). This will allow driving around the area without having to use the Valet at Mohegan for the Tesla destination chargers!

I had suggested to Tesla that they put chargers in the north and south bound rest areas on 395 just south of where US 6 crosses, but this is closer to the casinos!

 

[mociaf9]

I had suggested to Tesla that they put chargers in the north and south bound rest areas on 395

That sort of location is much rarer for a supercharger because it's usually publicly owned. While the public entity in charge may allow private companies to offer/sell services at those locations, Tesla usually either can't get approval or has a much harder time of it because they use a proprietary charging standard. It's the same for installing superchargers or HPWC on public properties in cities and towns. Almost always they balk at the fact that these can only service Tesla cars instead of all EVs.

 

[wcorey]

I had suggested to Tesla that they put chargers in the north and south bound rest areas on 395 just south of where US 6 crosses, but this is closer to the casinos!

That's not a bad idea. A better one would be off Attawagan Crossing or at 395 and 101. In that way it would work for PVD-HFD traffic as well.

 

[JWardell]

Yes! really needed one in the middle of 395!

 

[Bluespark]

Tesla has had this permit since about June. If you go to the town’s website, you can search the zoning commision’s meeting minutes. Since the approval, there hasn’t been any mention of it just as one would expect because once the local zoning board approves a permit, their job is done.

 

[pinball_player]

There are Tesla only chargers on the Merritt Parkway in Greenwich, but those were built in 2014 so they probably got grandfathered in and were installed when EVs were still brand new!

 

[wcorey]

That sort of location is much rarer for a supercharger because it's usually publicly owned. While the public entity in charge may allow private companies to offer/sell services at those locations, Tesla usually either can't get approval or has a much harder time of it because they use a proprietary charging standard. It's the same for installing superchargers or HPWC on public properties in cities and towns. Almost always they balk at the fact that these can only service Tesla cars instead of all EVs.

If Tesla is paying for the electricity, it makes sense it is used for their own cars. It has been said they are coming out with high speed (read high amp) J1772 type chargers that can do 40 mi Leafs and Teslas. Tesla Superchargers use straight DC rather than going through a converter, right?

 

[wcorey]

Tesla has had this permit since about June. If you go to the town’s website, you can search the zoning commision’s meeting minutes. Since the approval, there hasn’t been any mention of it just as one would expect because once the local zoning board approves a permit, their job is done.

Here's the weird thing. On the Tesla Supercharger map, they list one 'somewhere' in Parkersburg, WVa which was supposed to be online in 2018 but still has no set defined location. But there is nothing on that map for Lisbon, CT.

 

[tanker5]

Here's the weird thing. On the Tesla Supercharger map, they list one 'somewhere' in Parkersburg, WVa which was supposed to be online in 2018 but still has no set defined location. But there is nothing on that map for Lisbon, CT.

Tesla only updates their Superchargers page only once or twice a year to add upcoming supercharger locations which they are in the process of planning. For example —Trumbull, CT was originally listed as “Target openin 2017”. Then ...2018. Now... 2019.

Tesla is also constantly planning new sites which are not listed on their website yet. Manchester was never listed on Tesla’s wesite until it opened.

Lisbon could be one of those locations which was being planned after Tesla’s upcoming supercharger page was last updated. I think I was last updated during the spring of 2018.

 

[ModelNforNerd]

Tesla only updates their Superchargers page only once or twice a year to add upcoming supercharger locations which they are in the process of planning. For example —Trumbull, CT was originally listed as “Target openin 2017”. Then ...2018. Now... 2019.

Tesla is also constantly planning new sites which are not listed on their website yet. Manchester was never listed on Tesla’s wesite until it opened.

Lisbon could be one of those locations which was being planned after Tesla’s upcoming supercharger page was last updated. I think I was last updated during the spring of 2018.

It's also possible that Lisbon is really the New London coming soon location.

Tesla probably reassessed and decided coverage on 395 was better than filling in 95...especially if they actually ever get around to building Old Lyme. That would have been 3 SCs within a 57 mile stretch of 95.

 

[pinball_player]

If Tesla is paying for the electricity, it makes sense it is used for their own cars. It has been said they are coming out with high speed (read high amp) J1772 type chargers that can do 40 mi Leafs and Teslas. Tesla Superchargers use straight DC rather than going through a converter, right?

I have seen J-1772 handle up to 70 amps at 240V A/C which is about 17 kW of power. When you charge a car using A/C the A/C is converted into D/C which then charges the battery. OTOH DC charging goes directly to the battery and bypasses the rectifier in the car. The Tesla A/C connector works a lot like J-1772 so it can handle the same amount of power.

Now of course with A/C the lowest power handling device wins. If the wall outlet only supplies 30 amps then even though the car could accept 48 amps, only 30 amps will be delivered. Likewise my I try and charge my Model S on a A/C charger that can deliver 80 amps, my car only takes 48 amps because that is the maximum it can rectify from A/C to D/C

 

[wcorey]

Likewise my I try and charge my Model S on a A/C charger that can deliver 80 amps, my car only takes 48 amps because that is the maximum it can rectify from A/C to D/C

There an optional 72a charger you can order on your S or maybe only certain configs. My friend in San DIego had that option on his S.

 

[wcorey]

OTOH DC charging goes directly to the battery and bypasses the rectifier in the car. The Tesla A/C connector works a lot like J-1772 so it can handle the same amount of power.

And isn't that the difference between the Plug Share/Charge Point chargers and Tesla super chargers such that a Super Charger IS DC and the Plug Share/Charge Point are ONLY AC so the Tesla can use them via the J1772 but the non-Teslas can never use a SC. Consequently if Plug Share and Charge point put in 48a chargers they would work reasonably well with Teslas.

 

[wcorey]

Let me put this here. I'll start a new thread specifically for this:

Attn: Ct Tesla Owners please go to this address and sign the online petition to the State Legislature.
Sign your name to bring Tesla to CT

 

[JWardell]

Any updates on this location? Coming up on a year from the permit date

 

[ima747]

Bump Any updates or any number to call to give the town a poke?