I noticed the same issue today. Was able to see availability this morning around 8 AM, but not available starting at 2 PM until now.
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I noticed the same issue today. Was able to see availability this morning around 8 AM, but not available starting at 2 PM until now.
Bighorn
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HookBill
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rxlawdude
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Ciaopec
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Yes. I have had this happen as well. Nothing showed on stalls-in-use-status before charge. I had asked another driver at the location if they had noticed but they hadn't paid attention to it. After my charge was complete the icon showed again but showed all stalls in use (They were not.) Seems to work ok now.
Boatguy
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It's another piece of "over promise and under deliver" from Tesla. On a 2,000 mile trip in June the bars were always visible, but usually also inaccurate. Inaccurate data can be worse than no data if you make a decision based on an SC being full, when it is in fact not full.
I've concluded that the only the crucial vehicle control functions receive any testing. All other software and systems go through an announce, prototype, ship, and forget cycle. Route planning has been in beta for almost two years, the disastrous media player is covered extensively in other threads and virtually all the CID app are very poor compared with other vehicles, or a similar smart phone app.
Even in the "critical" area, AP HW 2.0 took almost a year to achieve functional parity with AP HW 1.0.
Tesla is no longer a new company. Poor software and "over commit, under deliver" has become part of the corporate culture. In 3-4 months we'll be reading about all the incomplete/buggy/unreliable software in the Model 3 which Tesla will explain away as being a function of early deliveries. But I assert that most of the poor peripheral s/w will still be problematic 2yrs from now. It's the Tesla way.
The good news is that we're going to have a lot more choices in the 2019-2020.
I've concluded that the only the crucial vehicle control functions receive any testing. All other software and systems go through an announce, prototype, ship, and forget cycle. Route planning has been in beta for almost two years, the disastrous media player is covered extensively in other threads and virtually all the CID app are very poor compared with other vehicles, or a similar smart phone app.
Even in the "critical" area, AP HW 2.0 took almost a year to achieve functional parity with AP HW 1.0.
Tesla is no longer a new company. Poor software and "over commit, under deliver" has become part of the corporate culture. In 3-4 months we'll be reading about all the incomplete/buggy/unreliable software in the Model 3 which Tesla will explain away as being a function of early deliveries. But I assert that most of the poor peripheral s/w will still be problematic 2yrs from now. It's the Tesla way.
The good news is that we're going to have a lot more choices in the 2019-2020.
CameronB
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I noticed this today as well - from 1:30pm and was still the case as of 9:00pm tonight (Friday, PST). All day pretty much for me.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
Makes me wonder if Tesla knows that the status is somewhat inaccurate and delayed, and disabled it for the Eclipse weekend, so people don't rely on it and get stuck somewhere? I could see a mountain of complaints flooding in.
The status indicator also don't show how many people are waiting in line.
Is bad data better than no data?
The status indicator also don't show how many people are waiting in line.
Is bad data better than no data?
rxlawdude
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HankLloydRight
No Roads
I'm not. I'm just saying that on a weekend like this, where there are going to be long lines at some popular SC locations, the SC status indicator is useless at conveying real-time SC utilization. So it's arguably better to not have the indicator on at all.
Say there's one stall that's ICEd out of 8. How many people are going to see "1 of 8 stalls available" on the touchscreen and assume they charge when they arrive.. but when they do, there's 10 cars waiting?
If they're literally waiting at the Supercharger, Tesla could easily set up something in the code with a geotag - this car arrived at the location more than two minutes ago, is still sitting there and not plugged in, it must be waiting for a charge.
Also, anyone who arrives on Nav sequence that calls for charging and doesn't plug in immediately...
HankLloydRight
No Roads
Good point! If Uber and Lyft can show real-time locations of their cars, Tesla could easily see there's a cluster of X cars not charging at a location, and devine a pretty close estimation of people waiting to charge. Really, how many people are going to hang around a SC after they've charged?
Even if folks do decide to hang out after charging and moving the car, they'd be easy to separate out just by looking at last charging session information.
I am afraid that is a correct depiction..
I remember Nissan app sometimes did not work for days, before someone in their IT department woke up and recycled their servers. Not sure if it is any more reliable now. I sometimes feel Tesla is slowly slipping down that path.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
For all non-critical, non-safety issues/features, they should just outsource/open source it to all of us, and we'll make it 1000x better.
I.e. Media Player, browser, etc.
(half joking, half serious).
I.e. Media Player, browser, etc.
(half joking, half serious).
rxlawdude
Active Member
I have to say that on a road trip last month, Nav actually routed around busy Superchargers in favor of less utilized ones. Not that it addresses the issue of waiters, but if you aren't routed to a busy SpC, you won't be waiting. As much.
Boatguy
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That's great, but based on my experience driving to "full" SCs that weren't full at all, you were perhaps re-routed unnecessarily.I have to say that on a road trip last month, Nav actually routed around busy Superchargers in favor of less utilized ones. Not that it addresses the issue of waiters, but if you aren't routed to a busy SpC, you won't be waiting. As much.
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