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Supercharger map for 2017

Discussion in 'Tesla' started by EV-lutioin, Dec 17, 2016.

  1. EV-lutioin

    EV-lutioin Active Member

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  2. DrivingTheFuture

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    Looks like we will have another range stressful Christmas as the supercharger that was supposed to be completed in 2016 for Rochester NY now won't be...
     
  3. gotz2ride

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    Looks like they removed Tucson from the list. Bummed
     
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    That is odd, Tucson is the perfect place for a solar powered supercharger station! I know they base locations of superchargers on the number of trips made in their cars to various locations, so maybe as the number of Teslas in Tucson goes up they will add it to the list.
    I talked to a service tech and he said the map they use to track vehicle trips and locate superchargers is quite impressive.
     
  5. TexasEV

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    How many cars do you think could be charged from the number of solar panels that could fit at a supercharger station? Three per day? Maybe four? It's completely impractical.
     
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    #6 dhanson865, Dec 18, 2016
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    It's not about capacity its about cost. At some point it is cheaper for Tesla to put their own panels up vs paying grid fees (per kwh and demand charges). Even if the PV is only covering a small portion of the power demand (whether that is 1%, 10%, 50% doesn't matter as long as it saves money)

    Both Solar PV and battery backup (powerpack) will offset demand charges. But only Solar PV lowers the base cost per kwh if you don't have demand charges.

    If the Solar PV + powerpack solution runs when the grid is down it adds reliability. Even if it is grid tie only it can keep charging rates from slowing if the incoming feed is poor (brownouts, dirty power, etc can be fixed by buffering through the powerpack).

    Given the recent trends its only a matter of time before you start seeing Tesla Solar installations. You can argue how much is cost reduction vs increased reliability vs marketing but I'd expect that it's mostly cost that will decide where they do it and when.
     
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    Looks like they missed on a lot of their planned 2016 locations. I wonder if it was due to regulatory and permit issues or if they were adjusting their plans based on observed behavior (and maybe observed abuse?)
     
  8. TexasEV

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    This was nothing new. Tesla missed on the planned 2014 and 2015 maps too. I look at the maps as more aspirational than informational.
    Besides, if the supercharger team completed projects on schedule it would make everyone else there look bad. Haven't you heard of Tesla Time?
     
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  9. madodel

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    Great idea. And every SC I have been at has been part of a larger general parking lot. So why not increase solar capacity by covering the entire parking lot with shade for all the other parked cars. We have a local community college that did this on part of their parking lot. They power part of the campus, not EVs but it should work just as well.[​IMG]
    And this is in NE Pennsylvania not sunny Tucson.
     
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    Does anyone know or figured out from the 2017 SuperCharger map if there are new locations around the Philly, PA area? I'm surprised that Philly being 5th largest market in the country they don't have a SC around King of Prussia Mall area and the I95 cooridor.
     
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    EMT = Elon Musk Time..it's based off of Mars :p
     
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    Anyone know the status of Supercharger stations planned for the I-10 between Tucson, AZ and El Paso, TX? As it is now, we have to use I-40 to make our Summer trip from Florida to San Diego, CA. It would be nice to be able to cross the country on I-10.
     
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    You and me both. Besides those stations don't forget the gap at Ft. Stockton. But no one know anything.
     
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    From Oxona to Van Horn TX is only 226 miles, so doable if we slow down to 60 to 65 mph. However, from El Paso, TX to Casa Grande, AZ is 370 miles. Maybe we could make it driving 22 mph, or find public charging stations along the way. I really do not want to buy the
    CHAdeMO Adapter.
     
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    If the planned Supercharger in Willcox, AZ was given priority, then the I-10 could be used the entire way, coast to coast. Only 223 miles from El Paso to Willcox. Also requiring moderating speed, but doable.
     
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    That depends on what car you have. It's just not possible to drive Ozona to Van Horn in a 60 or 70. Even with a larger battery, while it may be possible it's not safe to drive 60 to 65 mph on a highway with 80 mph speed limit. And what if you have headwinds? There's a reason Tesla is planning a supercharger at Ft. Stockton.
     
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    I just made that leg westbound (April 27), it took 98% of my 100% charge to make it. The average headwind was ~25mph gusts into the mid 40s. I followed any vehicle that could block wind (spacing 4), stayed at or under 65mph. But if you are looking to be daring and try the trip you can charge at the Magic Circle RV Park in Willcox. Nice people and just down the street from a Holiday Inn Express. I spoke to the Holiday Inn about installing destination charging and they weren't very interested. Said they don't see many electric cars, I explained that until there is access to charging electric cars won't be coming.

    The route is doable and once the Deming NM and Willcox AZ Superchargers open it will be a very nice alternative to I-40.
     
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  18. TexasEV

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    What battery do you have?
     
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    July 11, 2016 delivery S90D, 25,000 miles, my 100% = 290RM.
     
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    The stretch from Ozona to Van Horn is also a steady 1200 ft climb, and those winds referred to above are the norm -- there is a reason Texas produces more wind generated power than anywhere else...
     

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