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Supercharger - Nepean, ON - Robertson Road

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I dropped by yesterday at 1230 and talked to the site supervisor. He was very cagey about providing timelines siting confidentially agreements with Tesla. From what I gather from previous posts,this is Tesla's modus operandi, never reveal timelines, my guess they do not want to provide undue expectations.

My concern is that on their Supercharger map, Brockville and Renfrew, have been in the "coming soon" phase going on for extended time frame.

But if they can get those two, plus Bancroft, that will basically open all of Eastern Ontario even in the depths of a February deep freeze., It will provide redundancy and flexibility in charging options. There is nothing worse when travelling on a day when the windchill is hitting -40 to discover that Kingston is off-line due to some unknown technical issue. Ended up not making an important meeting in Ottawa that day as I had to stop in at Smiths Falls and top up at a Level 2 charger at Smith Falls Nissan. Not a whole lot of fun to run out of juice with no heat under those conditions.
 
Any word on where? You by chance ask if these different crews might be working on either Renfrew and or Brockville SC at the same time?

I mean there is only these locations marked coming soon (outside of the GTA)
- Bancroft
- Bracebridge
- Brockville
- Collingwood
- Kincardine
- Orangeville
- Orilla
- Renfrew

I doubt they would work on any urban chargers right now in the GTA such as Oakville or Liberty Village?
 
It will provide redundancy and flexibility in charging options. There is nothing worse when travelling on a day when the windchill is hitting -40 to discover that Kingston is off-line due to some unknown technical issue. Ended up not making an important meeting in Ottawa that day as I had to stop in at Smiths Falls and top up at a Level 2 charger at Smith Falls Nissan. Not a whole lot of fun to run out of juice with no heat under those conditions.
The supercharger network is great but, for all its extensive coverage, in most areas it is not at all robust. On lots of trips, if a single station goes down unexpectedly you're liable to be stuck. The hazard is increased by following optimal use strategy which has people arriving at chargers with low battery charge. And it's why people should own a CHAdeMO adapter if they can afford one or a CCS adapter whenever Tesla gets around to offering one in this market. This is especially true in Canada where there are also a ton of CCS/CHAdeMO stations that enable DC charging in areas not yet covered by the supercharger network. Otherwise just be prepared that on (a hopefully very rare) occasion you might be a few hours late to wherever you were going.
 
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I dropped by yesterday at 1230 and talked to the site supervisor. He was very cagey about providing timelines siting confidentially agreements with Tesla. From what I gather from previous posts,this is Tesla's modus operandi, never reveal timelines, my guess they do not want to provide undue expectations.

My concern is that on their Supercharger map, Brockville and Renfrew, have been in the "coming soon" phase going on for extended time frame.

But if they can get those two, plus Bancroft, that will basically open all of Eastern Ontario even in the depths of a February deep freeze., It will provide redundancy and flexibility in charging options. There is nothing worse when travelling on a day when the windchill is hitting -40 to discover that Kingston is off-line due to some unknown technical issue. Ended up not making an important meeting in Ottawa that day as I had to stop in at Smiths Falls and top up at a Level 2 charger at Smith Falls Nissan. Not a whole lot of fun to run out of juice with no heat under those conditions.
Well, from my previous post, I stopped by at 3:00pm that same day and did get timelines and more. As for gettng stuck, that must have been the winter before since last year was a mild winter. I'm not sure where you're coming from, but if you top up at Belleville, you should be able to make it to Ottawa without Kingston (which I wouldn't want to count on anyways). If you don't have long range, didn't top up all the way, and/or used a lot of interior heat while not paying attention to your range, that could happen. Have a back up plan, but I've never had an issue. With Nepean (and Perth) it will be even easier.
 
I mean there is only these locations marked coming soon (outside of the GTA)
- Bancroft
- Bracebridge
- Brockville
- Collingwood
- Kincardine
- Orangeville
- Orilla
- Renfrew

I doubt they would work on any urban chargers right now in the GTA such as Oakville or Liberty Village?
The lead electrician is not allowed to tell me. Assuming this crew isn't going to GTA and those are the only "coming soon" locations, only three of those won't be done by this particular crew. A week earlier, one of the workers told me they would be more in western Ontario which would eliminate Renfrew, Brockville, and perhaps Bancroft. How much further west? It's anybody's guess.
 
Well, from my previous post, I stopped by at 3:00pm that same day and did get timelines and more. As for gettng stuck, that must have been the winter before since last year was a mild winter. I'm not sure where you're coming from, but if you top up at Belleville, you should be able to make it to Ottawa without Kingston (which I wouldn't want to count on anyways). If you don't have long range, didn't top up all the way, and/or used a lot of interior heat while not paying attention to your range, that could happen. Have a back up plan, but I've never had an issue. With Nepean (and Perth) it will be even easier.

Since you mentioned it, my backup plan was to stop at Smith Falls (there is a site called plugshare.com which I encourage all Tesla drivers to consult in case a supercharger is down and you need to find an alternative).

I have driven to Florida three times, NYC twice, Virginia Beach once plus numerous trips throughout Ontario, Quebec, and Vermont. I have developed a deep and broad understanding of energy consumption, speed, ambient outside temperature, elevation, prevailing winds and range and how these interact with each other. And pay very close attention to same.

With respect to supercharging at Belleville, that last 10-20% takes an inordinate amount of time, so that extra 30-40 mins to get up to 98-99% from 80% may not be a good use of time. Another issue you might want to consider, is while you don't need to have the cabin toasty warm, you do need to keep your windshield from fogging up, and the colder it is, the more energy you need for that. I'm not going to debate historical winter climate, suffice to say on that very, very cold January morning, with Kingston completely down, the prudent course of action was to stop and top up at Smith Falls rather than chancing running out of energy at the 416 and Hunt Club. And the Nissan dealer provided coffee on the house! Two weeks ago today, I did a top up at Belleville to 80% and had a nice buffer when I arrived in Ottawa a bit over two hours later, and not worrying about moderating my speed to make it. But a warm day in July is no comparison to a bitterly cold January morning.
 
Since you mentioned it, my backup plan was to stop at Smith Falls (there is a site called plugshare.com which I encourage all Tesla drivers to consult in case a supercharger is down and you need to find an alternative).

I have driven to Florida three times, NYC twice, Virginia Beach once plus numerous trips throughout Ontario, Quebec, and Vermont. I have developed a deep and broad understanding of energy consumption, speed, ambient outside temperature, elevation, prevailing winds and range and how these interact with each other. And pay very close attention to same.

With respect to supercharging at Belleville, that last 10-20% takes an inordinate amount of time, so that extra 30-40 mins to get up to 98-99% from 80% may not be a good use of time. Another issue you might want to consider, is while you don't need to have the cabin toasty warm, you do need to keep your windshield from fogging up, and the colder it is, the more energy you need for that. I'm not going to debate historical winter climate, suffice to say on that very, very cold January morning, with Kingston completely down, the prudent course of action was to stop and top up at Smith Falls rather than chancing running out of energy at the 416 and Hunt Club. And the Nissan dealer provided coffee on the house! Two weeks ago today, I did a top up at Belleville to 80% and had a nice buffer when I arrived in Ottawa a bit over two hours later, and not worrying about moderating my speed to make it. But a warm day in July is no comparison to a bitterly cold January morning.
It doesn't slow down substantially until you're over roughly 460km of charge (or you can't get that high if you don't have long range, which you didn't say). In any case, this winter you can use the Peterborough-Perth route. If you can't stand that route and refuse to take it, you can get an adapter to use in Brockville or Prescott as a back up, if you insist on the 416. It would be great if they got the Kings Crossing Power Center station up, especially since Brockville supercharger seems to be going nowhere. Regardless, it gets easier with time and as more stations get installed. Imagine the challenge five years ago! Cheers! Also, I find the windshield fogs up on the Model 3 more than what would be considered normal and I'm not sure why that is.
 
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Sunday, July 26th at 8:30pm. It looks like some repavement has been done and a section of approximately 10m x 20m needs to be repaved. Then they can remove the fence and flick on the switch.
 
With that logic:
- Lac Leamy
- Galleries de Hull
- Canadian Tire beside Galleries de Hull (parking lot is small)
- St Hubert (very unlikely)

I can’t imagine really anywhere else, I don’t think the federal government will give Tesla parking spaces for supercharging.
There's an old Rona building with lots of parking spaces right near the Casino and they could put some there as another option to what you've suggested. If they go too far east off the 50, it won't help those going Northbound to Edelweiss and Wakefield nor for anyone going through Gatineau Park. Originally, it looked like it would be at or near Promenades de l'Outaouais. It's a wait and see scenario.
 
I’m just noticing now that you can technically charge on two sides of the chargers (back and front)

Maybe, to reserve for future expansion. Great in case of ICEing or let’s say a Tesla towing something.
Good point. However, only six of the eight stalls have that option. The two closest to the transformer boxes are too far to reach and there's no parking spot on the other side of them. Also, the four stalls furthest away from the transformer boxes say "15 minute Tesla general charging". I don't know why those four say that other than to perhaps discourage people from charging for too long. Aside from this, the parking lines still need to be painted.
 
Good point. However, only six of the eight stalls have that option. The two closest to the transformer boxes are too far to reach and there's no parking spot on the other side of them. Also, the four stalls furthest away from the transformer boxes say "15 minute Tesla general charging". I don't know why those four say that other than to perhaps discourage people from charging for too long. Aside from this, the parking lines still need to be painted.

I think it’s “15 minute general parking” which IIRC means that even an ICE can park there for 15 mins. They use that variant of the sign to appease the host (Canadian Tire) sometimes when they’re grumpy about the loss in parking spots.