Supercharger - North Bethesda, MD

[mociaf9]

I was checking to see whether there had been any status change on the permits for the Bethesda superchargers at the Montgomery Mall (FYI, there hadn't) and I came across a new building permit application for an 8 stall supercharger in one of the parking garages at the Pike & Rose mall. The permit was applied for on 2019-06-12 but hasn't yet been approved. I've no idea whether this indicates anything about the Montgomery Mall superchargers being totally dropped or not.

Commercial Building Permit #: 879042

What: new 8 stall supercharger permit applicaiton
Where: 11860 Trade St; North Bethesda, MD; 20852
GPS: 39.050367, -77.116562

@BlueShift @Chuq

 

[MacGreiner]

There is an existing DC fast charger there I believe - at least nearby.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

Using their search, this is all the detail I see:

Permit Number 879042 Type Commercial Building
Application Date 06/12/2019 Issue Date
Final Date Status In Process
Work Type Alter Storage Building Site Address 11860 TRADE ST NORTH BETHESDA, MD 20852
Square Footage 1,400 Value $155,000.00
Subdivision Lot/Block N/A/N/A

Nothing indicating Superchargers.

 

[mociaf9]

Using their search, this is all the detail I see:

Permit Number 879042 Type Commercial Building
Application Date 06/12/2019 Issue Date
Final Date Status In Process
Work Type Alter Storage Building Site Address 11860 TRADE ST NORTH BETHESDA, MD 20852
Square Footage 1,400 Value $155,000.00
Subdivision Lot/Block N/A/N/A

Nothing indicating Superchargers.

Yeah, I found it via the Montgomery County Open Data portal listing all commercial building permit applications, but unlike the Permitting Services link I originally used that dataset doesn't give any ongoing information about the status of reviews, etc, just the current permit status. Plus, it's not quite so straightforward to find the data. So, I didn't bother linking to that source. But you can find it by searching "tesla" in the smaller, "Find in this Dataset" search bar under the header at the OpenData link above (i.e. NOT the big one at the top of the page). In the row for permit# 879042, if you scroll over to the Description column, it reads (you either have to leave your cursor over the text to see the full statement, or change the data display to single row by clicking that option next to the dataset search bar):

Customer Wants To Use ePlans. Interior work only, Tesla is proposing to install an 8 stall electric vehicle charging station w.in the ex. parking gara

Tesla + an 8 stall EVCS in a mall garage + $155,000 value = Supercharger.

 

[TribeDC]

I was checking to see whether there had been any status change on the permits for the Bethesda superchargers at the Montgomery Mall (FYI, there hadn't) and I came across a new building permit application for an 8 stall supercharger in one of the parking garages at the Pike & Rose mall. The permit was applied for on 2019-06-12 but hasn't yet been approved. I've no idea whether this indicates anything about the Montgomery Mall superchargers being totally dropped or not.

Commercial Building Permit #: 879042

What: new 8 stall supercharger permit applicaiton
Where: 11860 Trade St; North Bethesda, MD; 20852
GPS: 39.050367, -77.116562

@BlueShift @Chuq

Just saw this update, thanks for the info as I've been wondering when they would start adding chargers this side of DC and the Potomac.

As far as the permits at the mall, I stopped in and asked about them earlier this summer. I was told that the mall is going to go through a renovation/demolition, in which large portions will be torn down. It sounded like everything aside from the movies and food court was getting phased out, not sure about that accuracy of this but it makes sense. It was posited that they would start with the Sears portion for obvious reasons.

Ironically they stated that the plan is to build a "Pike and Rose" walk-able style mixed commercial, residential, office community in it's place. I think if they keep the Tesla store located there, then we could expect there to be superchargers, but that will be years from now.

 

[mociaf9]

Update-- The building permit for the North Bethesda superchargers was approved and issued on 2019-09-27.

Yay!

 

[LordMelkor]

What has the turn around time typically been to go from permit to actual supercharger?

Having a supercharger down the street would be amazing, since I currently don't have a home charging solution!

 

[CHRGIT]

What has the turn around time typically been to go from permit to actual supercharger?

Having a supercharger down the street would be amazing, since I currently don't have a home charging solution!

Days, months, years or never.

 

[Syd]

From permit to on-line, I've never seen less than months. (from 'discovered construction' to on-line is a different matter depending on when the construction was discovered). However, yeas has definitely happened multiple times. (see King of Prussia, PA, Allentown, PA, ...)

 

[CloudT]

I live across the street. Went and checked it out today. Construction is well under way. Anyone know about how long it will take from this stage?

 

[CloudT]

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This is a solar garage btw

 

[MarcoRP]

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Thanks! With that, Supercharge Info has been updated to show this location as under construction with 8 V2 Urban stalls.

 

[Sonny Daze]

Anyone know about how long it will take from this stage?

Follow the cabling to the actual charger cabinets (maybe on another level) and try to find out if a meter has been installed yet.

 

[CloudT]

Follow the cabling to the actual charger cabinets (maybe on another level) and try to find out if a meter has been installed yet.

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ok. Thanks. I went back today to see if I see any cabinets and I didn’t. Must be on a different level.

 

[bhakan]

ok. Thanks. I went back today to see if I see any cabinets and I didn’t. Must be on a different level.

Where are these planned for? Inside the garage across from REI side? I think they have few L2 chargers on one of the up ramps and it is very crowded. I have to see next time when I go where these are located. The Porshe dealer is right next door.

 

[David.85D]

I know that garage and despise it. Very narrow entrance and very narrow 2-way travel up and down the ramp. always have people backed up waiting for someone to make it around the tight corner, or a log-jam created when someone coming down the ramp meets someone going up the ramp in the tight corner. Even my kids noticed all the scrapes and marks on the concrete posts that line the corners - a lot of cars have been damaged in this place! Really wish they had picked a better location...

 

[Fredneck]

Days, months, years or never.

Days??? Really???

 

[anonim1979]

I know that garage and despise it. Very narrow entrance and very narrow 2-way travel up and down the ramp. always have people backed up waiting for someone to make it around the tight corner, or a log-jam created when someone coming down the ramp meets someone going up the ramp in the tight corner. Even my kids noticed all the scrapes and marks on the concrete posts that line the corners - a lot of cars have been damaged in this place! Really wish they had picked a better location...

How would Cybertruck will fare here?

 

[Chuq]

Days??? Really???

It's happened! https://i.imgur.com/D0XoolS.png

 

[bhakan]

The only time to go to that garage is at night when the stores have closed. Very bad decision to have picked that garage.