Supercharger - Northwest - Kalispell
- Thread starter Rownolds
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I have found that the search function of that database is basically worthless for finding superchargers unless you already know where they are going. And even then, it's not that great. E.g. You can see pictures of the construction already started on the Helena superchargers in the Helena thread, but still no permit can be found for it. So, I wouldn't rely on the search results from that database necessarily being an accurate reflection of reality.
theeskimo
Member
Noticed the same thing when trying to search through it last night.
Are there specific search params that you are entering to try and find results?
alphainfinity
Supporting Member
I don't "own" the database. It is just a possible indicator that electrical work may be occurring soon if Tesla draws a permit. If you have a better piece of data to work with, let me know.
I understand. It's just that your original statement on the matter was definitive, "No electrical permits have been pulled by Tesla, Inc for Kalispell, or for that matter anywhere else in Montana as of today." But, due to the deficiencies in the search function of Montana's permit portal, you can't possibly know whether that is actually true or not. It can tell you that something is there if you find a relevant permit, but it can't tell you that something isn't there just because your search came up empty. For example, there are currently 4 "active" supercharger construction sites that we know of in Montana (Glendive, Miles City, Helena, & Great Falls). Using the same search strategy that you used for Kalispell, how many of the permits for those known sites can you find and independently identify as being for a supercharger without using the already known addresses and picture confirmation from the sites?
This is mostly beside the point though, as I agree that it's very unlikely that Tesla has moved forward yet on a Kalispell supercharger. See this comment in the Great Falls thread from Rownolds in October 2019 whose source turned out to be right on the money:
No new information on an actual building permit (I searched MT's sucky database again but didn't find anything), but I did find the planning approval and explicit confirmation of the location being at the Super1 Foods on 1st Ave. in some documents:
Address: 55N 1st Ave E N, Kalispell, MT 59901
GPS: 48.201410, -114.312037
@Chuq @MarcoRP
- Site Development Review Committee meeting 2019-06-13
- SDRC meeting 2019-04-11 [pdf]
- SDRC meeting 2019-02-21 [pdf]
Address: 55N 1st Ave E N, Kalispell, MT 59901
GPS: 48.201410, -114.312037
@Chuq @MarcoRP
Awesome! Thanks for the confirmation and will add on Supercharge Info!
FWIW, Kalispell does post building permit info in a pdf. https://www.kalispell.com/DocumentCenter/View/2919/Building-Permits-Issued-in-2020-PDF
Annoyingly, the heading in the PDF still says 2018, but the data is updated regularly. (The last permit issued was 3/27/2020 when I checked before this post.)
No mention of a Telsa SC.
Annoyingly, the heading in the PDF still says 2018, but the data is updated regularly. (The last permit issued was 3/27/2020 when I checked before this post.)
No mention of a Telsa SC.
George Parrott
Member
Finally a confirmation that at least we are in "permit stage" for Kalispell. I have friends there that I try to visit on side trips from my regular "road tripping" routes and the 3 YEARS of waiting between when that location was first on the Tesla "PLAN" routing to now has been painful. Sadly my scheduled April big road trip across the Canadian Rockies which MIGHT have included a side jaunt to Kalispell has been delayed for some....strange reason, so maybe next year the Kalispell location will be up and functional.
Drove past today but no signs of any life. Excellent location though as plenty of places to walk to while charging.
smartypnz
Supporting Member
Sigh.... Unfortunately will be there (hoping) 2nd week of July. Is there anywhere else to charge (level 2) ? If not - will have to pass on Glacier Nat'l Park.
Several places, plugshare will help. Probably going to be looking hard at this myself come August.
I believe I've posted this previously in this thread (if not here, somewhere else on TMC), but the Kalispell Red Lion has a couple FREE L2 chargers with very long cords, so at the very least, you should be able to figure out some way to plug in even if the parking lot is totally full (highly unlikely this year). I used them a couple years ago and they worked great. In my case, I was a hotel guest so I called ahead and they went out and coned the parking spot just to be safe. But I'm pretty sure just about anyone could plug in for a bit if you came by during the day (hotel parking lots are pretty dead during business hours).
smartypnz
Supporting Member
wreighven
Member
mckemie
Member
For what its worth:
Last summer I drove my ~300 mile 3 from Missoula up the east side of Flathead Lake through Glacier NP and on to Ft MacLeod. It was semi-close. The slow driving in and around the park is pretty efficient.
Last summer I drove my ~300 mile 3 from Missoula up the east side of Flathead Lake through Glacier NP and on to Ft MacLeod. It was semi-close. The slow driving in and around the park is pretty efficient.
alphainfinity
Supporting Member
All,
I live in Kalispell. Where is the build site? I can check on it at least once a week and update the thread.
I live in Kalispell. Where is the build site? I can check on it at least once a week and update the thread.
