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I wouldn't call that ticketing, but I am thankful that security recognizes our need for access. At some point, official signs may have to be posted, with the required language to allow towing. If you jump to the Culver City thread, you will see all 12 spots were ICE'd all weekend. This should all calm down after the holiday. In the meantime, none of us should plan travel that requires use of a SC in a mall during the holiday.Saturday night, the pictures say it all, but its great to see security is right on it here!! I do think the signs should say TESLA ONLY.
Don't get your hopes for ticketing or towing. These are customers of the mall, and the mall management isn't going to want to do anything to lose their business. Yes, Tesla owners are potential business, too, but a current customer is worth more than a potential customer.
I'd guess they said the same thing when handicap parking spots were first introduced.
In the meantime, none of us should plan travel that requires use of a SC in a mall during the holiday.
Agreed, but fortunately for us here in So. Cal, both this SC and the one in Culver City are (almost) completely optional.Kinda defeats the purpose of Superchargers if you can't travel during the holidays, no?
I was there just today. I did see one ICE pull in as I left. The sign does say '30 min general parking', so he was perfectly within his right to park there for up to 30 min. There were many open spots, though.
Remember at superchargers like this with both general parking and reserved spaces, Tesla drivers are perfectly within their right too to park in the "30 min. general parking" spots even when a reserved spot is open. This keeps the spaces from being ICE'd if people do follow the signs and only see reserved spots left.I was there just today. I did see one ICE pull in as I left. The sign does say '30 min general parking', so he was perfectly within his right to park there for up to 30 min. There were many open spots, though.
Don't get your hopes for ticketing or towing. These are customers of the mall, and the mall management isn't going to want to do anything to lose their business. Yes, Tesla owners are potential business, too, but a current customer is worth more than a potential customer.
Well, the real tickets could be given, but legally cannot hold up. Parking tickets cannot be given on private property unless there is a specific ordinance, along with proper signage. I do not know of the former in RC (though I doubt it), but the latter is definitely not in place at any Tesla SC to date.Actually, while I was charging over the holliday weekend, there were 2 ICE's in Tesla only spots. Both were issued "citation warnings" by mall security. I asked what would happen to repeat offenders and the reply was that they would get "real" tickets from the city, and would have to go to court to fight them. I was really impressed - over the span of 15-20 min, there were 2 different security guards that stopped to write up the offenders, as well as a Rancho cop squad car. So I don't think it is all just posturing by mall management.
The only exception I know of, where ticketing is allowed on private property, is for handicapped spaces. I wonder how that law works, and if a similar law could be passed for EV's? I highly doubt it, as the EV lobbying efforts cannot come even close.
Well, the real tickets could be given, but legally cannot hold up. Parking tickets cannot be given on private property unless there is a specific ordinance, along with proper signage. I do not know of the former in RC (though I doubt it), but the latter is definitely not in place at any Tesla SC to date.
The only exception I know of, where ticketing is allowed on private property, is for handicapped spaces. I wonder how that law works, and if a similar law could be passed for EV's? I highly doubt it, as the EV lobbying efforts cannot come even close.
If these could be ticketed like handicap spots, I think Tesla would have a much harder time negotiating leases for their superchargers. It depends on how the law is written, of course. But in the case of handicap parking, the law is actually a restriction on property rights. I don't think any legislature is going to decide that EVs merit similar restrictions. And if the law is written to leave it up to the property owner, I don't think many will enforce it.