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Supercharger - Reno, NV
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I get that you're trying to defend your town, but the average Tesla owner who would use this supercharger is an older, rich guy from California and he often has wife and/or kids in tow. And keep in mind the superchargers are used 24/7. Casinos like Peppermill, Atlantis and GSR are good locations in Reno, and they correctly went with Atlantis for the first one. There are probably some other decent commercial locations that are not casinos. Downtown is not a good location. Just my two cents.
Doesn't really matter to me as I never intend to use it anyway and if it never gets installed there I personally don't care but I know there are many that commute from and to the area that would like a supercharger closer to the freeway near town and closer than Atlantis. There seems to be plenty of parking lot space by the Legends in Sparks and it is right next to the freeway also. When I mention Eldorado, it is because I know someone that works in the field that had that information so I was just passing it on. As far as supporting my town, I think with all the lack of housing and infrastructure that currently has fallen behind all the business like the Gigafactory, it would not be a problem for me if everyone just quit moving here and didn't even come to visit. Would make my drives through town much better so if I can say anything like we have an especially high murder rate to keep people away, that would be nice but I just don't think in truth it is any worse than anywhere else. Maybe some demographic research could be helpful for anyone that is really worried about it.
Ulmo
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I'm on the same side as you on this: I've been pushing for safe locations for Tesla SuperChargers, and like you, I have been warning of some of the unsavory locations, times, and directions. (Typically those who claim "it is dangerous everywhere" are themselves merely trying to engender social norms and cultures that allow, spread, and require danger everywhere (probably because they think they profit from it (erronously)), and statistically and anecdotally it is false that everywhere has the same danger level.)
Having said that, one of the nice things now is that there are so many SuperChargers (SC's), that aware Tesla drivers and their copilots can carefully pick which SuperChargers to stop at according to how safe the SC areas are, and can do so in a way that takes into account who is with them, what time it is, and other conditions. Also, with the current and future density of SC's, there is now the ability to drive near a SuperCharger, find out that it is not in a situation that the Tesla occupants are comfortable with or which they deem suboptimal, and consider changing plans and skipping that SC to go to another nearby SC within range. Or, as an occasional option in some particular situations, if you have strength in numbers (depends on if you know the other Tesla occupants will help (whether in your car or other cars)), you could do a quick short SuperCharge enough to get to the next safer SC.
Also, use patterns can change what happens to an area. Many places I have lived I have created a bubble of safety around me extending to the neighborhood (and indeed when I left those places, some measure of lack of safety often (but not always) moved back in). Tesla SuperChargers have both pushed away unsavory activity and attracted it, depending on situation. For instance, Los Gatos's SC before it was an active SC was a hangout spot for smokers and dopers (that as far as I know didn't themselves cause danger, but their presense also attracted the presense of other criminals who felt more comfortable around smokers). Now, although they have scooched a bit away, they are also less present there, especially since night lighting came in. (I think the lighting should only turn on when they sense presense of cars or people, to keep the neighbors sleeping better, but either way I am reporting the experience.) All depending on the types and numbers of Tesla occupants coming, they could either push away or attract immoral activities.
In other words, the SuperCharger network is getting to a critical mass and density in many areas that it has achieved a transcendent level of overall safety potential, although it is more of a complex issue, just like life. I at least want to claim my appreciation of that improvement.
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I usually have 10 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber but if they get off the first round it may not do me any good and I'd rather never have to take a life for any reason so would only pull as a last option. A safer SC location would be prefered but if not possible, I will charge where I need to.
Nothing to report from my end. The source I had no longer has the same position and my other source got canned for being out sick for 3 days with a doctors note and supervisor approval. Tesla said they started using a point ssystem but failed to mention that to him or he would've tried to work sick.
Silicon Desert
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Hmmm, I tripped across this thread somehow, so as long as I am here, I thought I would comment.
The short answer is NO, the GF chargers are not available to the public, with exceptions. If you are an employee, a contractor, invited visitor or other business reasons to be on-site, then yes, you can use them. They aren't on the car map for a reason. Tesla doesn't want people to be confused that they can go in for a charge, only to be turned away at the gate.
There aren't that many supercharges outside the lobby anyway. Just a few. There are about 100-120 (I have actually counted them one by one) HPWC 80 A slow chargers in the parking lot. And they are mostly completely full in use by employees, contractors, and demo cars.
ProphetM
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I'm taking a long distance trip shortly and I will need to stop at the Reno superchargers. How are they doing these days? Speed, occupancy, etc. We will probably be arriving around 1-3pm on a Wednesday. We have a LONG day of driving to do (850 miles) and I'd rather not have to wait to get a charge, but there isn't much of an alternative given where we're headed - we'll be coming in from the Hawthorne SC and our next SC after this will be Mt. Shasta.
I live in Reno but have never used the superchargers here as charging at home is my normal place so can't really report on how busy they get or when. They are located at the Atlantis Casino and I believe they are valet parking but not sure. Sorry I'm not more help.
They are not valet parking.
There has been no mention of crowding in this thread so that is a good sign. I did see one mention of a small wait (1 or 2 cars) on a Friday a couple weeks ago on a Facebook forum, but that is the first I ever heard of this one having a line (outside of major events). I wouldn't anticipate a wait whatsoever on a Wednesday afternoon. Good luck with your trip and be sure to get plenty of charge to make the Reno to Mount Shasta leg. If it's looking tight, the Red Lion in Susanville is a good place to top off on their HPWCs.
There has been no mention of crowding in this thread so that is a good sign. I did see one mention of a small wait (1 or 2 cars) on a Friday a couple weeks ago on a Facebook forum, but that is the first I ever heard of this one having a line (outside of major events). I wouldn't anticipate a wait whatsoever on a Wednesday afternoon. Good luck with your trip and be sure to get plenty of charge to make the Reno to Mount Shasta leg. If it's looking tight, the Red Lion in Susanville is a good place to top off on their HPWCs.
mspohr
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I use the Reno SC occasionally and have never had a wait. It could get busy with weekend tourists.
There are also some HPWC across the street.
I've hit up the Supercharger on occasion and once or twice it's been completely full and had a line, but I would say that is the exception, not the rule. Wednesday during the day should be perfectly fine, if you miss your window you might find people charging after work, but they should clear out pretty quickly.
I've done the trip from Reno to Shasta a couple of times. As someone else said, there are some Level 2 chargers in Susanville, CA that you can park at and walk to a fast food place to grab some dinner.
The last time I drove Reno to Shasta, I used 31% (Model 3 LR RWD) to get to Susanville. Stopped at the Red Lion, plugged in, walked over to KFC and got dinner. 30 minutes later, I had eaten my gross but delicious chicken dinner and gotten 4 kWh (+5%). Then Susanville to Shasta took 40% of my battery. I would have been completely fine without stopping in Susanville but we were hungry and I was a little worried that the trip would take more battery.
I used AP the entire way, so I did +5mph (it's limited most of the way) over the speed limit, so that probably helped (I usually do 10 over).
(Couple tips if you haven't done this drive before: about 2/3 of the trip between Susanville and Shasta is dead zone, car won't have any reception so have some music downloaded to your phone. Also have the Caltrans Quickmap app downloaded on your phone, especially if it's fire season.)
I've done the trip from Reno to Shasta a couple of times. As someone else said, there are some Level 2 chargers in Susanville, CA that you can park at and walk to a fast food place to grab some dinner.
The last time I drove Reno to Shasta, I used 31% (Model 3 LR RWD) to get to Susanville. Stopped at the Red Lion, plugged in, walked over to KFC and got dinner. 30 minutes later, I had eaten my gross but delicious chicken dinner and gotten 4 kWh (+5%). Then Susanville to Shasta took 40% of my battery. I would have been completely fine without stopping in Susanville but we were hungry and I was a little worried that the trip would take more battery.
I used AP the entire way, so I did +5mph (it's limited most of the way) over the speed limit, so that probably helped (I usually do 10 over).
(Couple tips if you haven't done this drive before: about 2/3 of the trip between Susanville and Shasta is dead zone, car won't have any reception so have some music downloaded to your phone. Also have the Caltrans Quickmap app downloaded on your phone, especially if it's fire season.)
Silicon Desert
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I live here too. The wife and I go there almost every couple of weeks for the Atlantis buffet. I have seen these 6 chargers full only ONCE in 3 years ! That was for the "Hot August Nights" auto displays when folks from all over the country bring up their fancy cars. There is no valet parking for these stalls. You just pull in there and charge. I do charge there occasionally and never a problem yet. However, I usually charge at one of the two destination chargers across the street in the other parking lot while we eat. Also, no charge for parking around there.
They were also full after the Gigafactory grand opening and during the ribbon cutting ceremony nearly 3 years ago, but that was a special event.
Silicon Desert
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yes, I think I remember someone saying that, but I did not experience it. Though for people visiting these days, it is still mostly open, yet I do notice more model 3s over there at times. I guess if folks show up and it is full for some reason, then the destination chargers across the street or at the Peppermill Casino down the street would help. Hey, that buffet is pretty good at both places, but you will likely fill up your stomach faster than the Tesla can fill upThey were also full after the Gigafactory grand opening and during the ribbon cutting ceremony nearly 3 years ago, but that was a special event.
Oh and there are also a couple destination chargers at the GSR casino a couple miles away.
Silicon Desert
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Yup I agree with all that. It's easy for people from other states to say what they think is safe or not safe in this area, but they don't live here, so I just ignore the comments. I just don't like the Eldorado area for other reasons. For me, too busy, too many people, and not as easy to get in and out of there. And since there is a greater increase in number of people, it increases the odds of an issue occurring.... like in any populated area.
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