Supercharger - Sagamore (Bourne, MA)
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tga
Supporting Member
Without pointing fingers at anyone one poster (I could quote about 6 of them), maybe we should dial back the rhetoric? After all, this is a public forum, and it's entirely possible that Bourne town officials are reading this thread.
Insulting the inspector is not likely to encourage him to see the light.
It sounds like there are two issues in his mind - (1) licensing and (2) a user-accessible disconnect means.
This is the first Supercharger in MA, so there is no precedent for dealing with MA licensing and permit issues. If the contractor didn't have the proper license, what, exactly, do you want the inspector to do? Just ignore MA law and sign off on the work?
As to the need for a disconnect, that's probably a code discussion between the inspector and Tesla. Now that it's been brought up, I'm surprised that the NEC doesn't require a disconnect for high current DC charging, since they do for AC, and superchargers are way beyond the AC current/voltage levels discussed in 625.23
EDIT: See NEC Article 625: http://www.calstart.org/Libraries/E...ents/Article_625_Natl_Electric_Code.sflb.ashx
In a quick read, I see nothing that says 625.23 only applies to L2 charging, so I could see the assumption that it applies to L3. All Chademo chargers I've seen have a big red stop button. I'm surprised the disconnect issue hasn't come up before.
Insulting the inspector is not likely to encourage him to see the light.
It sounds like there are two issues in his mind - (1) licensing and (2) a user-accessible disconnect means.
This is the first Supercharger in MA, so there is no precedent for dealing with MA licensing and permit issues. If the contractor didn't have the proper license, what, exactly, do you want the inspector to do? Just ignore MA law and sign off on the work?
As to the need for a disconnect, that's probably a code discussion between the inspector and Tesla. Now that it's been brought up, I'm surprised that the NEC doesn't require a disconnect for high current DC charging, since they do for AC, and superchargers are way beyond the AC current/voltage levels discussed in 625.23
EDIT: See NEC Article 625: http://www.calstart.org/Libraries/E...ents/Article_625_Natl_Electric_Code.sflb.ashx
In a quick read, I see nothing that says 625.23 only applies to L2 charging, so I could see the assumption that it applies to L3. All Chademo chargers I've seen have a big red stop button. I'm surprised the disconnect issue hasn't come up before.
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Got off the phone with Tom the Town Manager, sounds like the master license issue and the disconnect issue are solved. Looks like things are now moving forward. Waiting for final sign-off soon.
mitch672
Active Member
Sometimes, you have to hit the bull over the head with a baseball bat, to get it's attention.
I will not retract or change anything I have posted. This incident has been an embarrasment to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
I will not retract or change anything I have posted. This incident has been an embarrasment to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
With both Auburn and the Sagamore SCs up and running, we won't have to drive through RI from CT, to get to the Cape.
Sagamore Tesla Charging Station Set To Open - CapeNews.net: Bourne
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Regarding the equipment being readily accessible, a similar issue arose at the Edison NJ site and a knox box was used. Here is a link to that thread: Google Groups
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Regarding the equipment being readily accessible, a similar issue arose at the Edison NJ site and a knox box was used. Here is a link to that thread: Google Groups
David Rhee
Member
Hooray! I'm glad this has been resolved. My question is why has the inspector found the issues with licensing in September? Shouldn't this kind of issue be found out and resolved at the beginning of the project and not at the end?
Cottonwood
Roadster#433, Model S#S37
Regarding access, my local fire department is happy with access and turn offs being protected with padlocks, then the universal key is a nice, big bolt cutter in the truck. :biggrin:
Funny how some of us that emailed the Board were quoted in the news article. The board members must have forwarded our emails along to the reporter.
Glad this if finally opening.
Glad this if finally opening.
Excellent news!!! With this and the Auburn station, we can finally avoid the back roads into/through RI to get to the Cape. No offense to RI, it is a nice drive, but it adds time to the trip.
SW2Fiddler
We Are Cognitive Dissidents
Trick or Treat, station should be open by Friday or sooner.
The employees working the Dunkin' Donuts drive thru are going to see a lot of Model S' this weekend.
The employees working the Dunkin' Donuts drive thru are going to see a lot of Model S' this weekend.
rav
Member
Yeah!! Awesome! I will need to come charge tomorrow. Guess I'm not plugging in at home tonight!
mitch672
Active Member
I like how the "TESLA" lights up on the charging stanchions, nice!
should we have a get together on Sunday, to have a "ribbon cutting" / photo op?
we can fill it up with 8 Model S's and invite the local media (Cape Cod Times) to take pictures..
maybe see if Matt from Watertown wants to come down as well.
should we have a get together on Sunday, to have a "ribbon cutting" / photo op?
we can fill it up with 8 Model S's and invite the local media (Cape Cod Times) to take pictures..
maybe see if Matt from Watertown wants to come down as well.
