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Supercharger - San Antonio, TX

Discussion in 'Texas' started by BerTX, Feb 15, 2017.

  1. BerTX

    BerTX Active Member

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    On the 2017 Supercharger possibilities map, there is a marker for a San Antonio location.

    The likely location might be at the new Service Center that is permitted at 23011 I-10 W. The permits so far for this location do not show any mention of a Supercharger.

    Taking a broader view, the routes to be served by a San Antonio location would be I-10 East and West, I-35 North and South, and I-37 South. Placement in the Service Center would be ideal for the I-10 traffic, but very inconvenient for the other routes.

    A better location might be on I-10, somewhere between the intersection with I-35 and I-37. This would be usable for all three routes.

    To Junction, TX - 121 mi
    To Flatonia, TX - 89 mi
    To San Marcos, TX - 47 mi
    To Pearsall, TX - 59 mi
    To Three Rivers, TX - 69 mi

    My money is still on the Service Center location, even though it is not ideal for anything but I-10. I'm going off the precedent set by the Supercharger at the Houston Service Center, which isn't real convenient for travel in most directions, yet there it is.
     
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  2. RichardD

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    This would be nice to have. I want to take a trip to Shiner.
     
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    Shiner is only 65 miles from San Marcos and 54 miles from Columbus. Once Flatonia is completed, it is only 20 miles from Shiner. I guess I don't know why you can't reach Shiner.
     
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    I can but having that one is nice too.
     
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    Not sure why, but there is a construction cone in Supercharge.info now for the SA Supercharger at the Service Center at 23011 w IH 10. There is no Supercharger construction there, as of 3/23/17. There is no permit for Supercharger construction in that location, but maybe @BlueShift has some information that we don't.

    I certainly hope this turns out to be correct!
     
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    I went by the new service center location about an hour ago. There are six electric conduits along the front parking lot, but the wires are of the size that will support six HPWC's. There is no sign of anything that looks like Super Chargers at this time.
     
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    That's what I was afraid of -- maybe the construction person that confirmed Supercharger installation didn't know what a Supercharger was. He knew there were going to be chargers, so he assumed they were "super".
     
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    It wouldn't be the first time someone confused HPWCs with superchargers.
     
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    The location would seem to be ideal. Pretty much in the middle of Junction and Three Rivers while filling a lengthy gap on I10. Thanks for keeping us posted!
     
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    Yeah, received an email yesterday mentioning that it looks like six superchargers are under construction in San Antonio. Removed the supercharge.info cone just now based on the above observations of dturgeon. Thanks.
     
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    It's possible that it is Supercharger construction. Unfortunately I can't get back there until next week some time. Maybe someone can get some pictures? The best thing to do is to park in the defunct Music School parking lot next door (before you get to the SC) and walk over there on the sidewalk.
     
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    I could really benefit from this by April 21...
     
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    BerTX

    there is a big difference between the conduits used for a SC and a HPWC and it is not possible that it is SC construction.

    Don.

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    Thanks for the photo. Yeah, if that's it, then that looks to me like destination charging. I hope they put some sturdier posts around those conduits before they install the actual HPWC's.
     
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    Thanks for the confirmation!

    At least we know where the Supercharger is NOT going to be.

    Unfortunately, it's really hard to find permits in the SA database. But let's keep trying! Maybe we'll stumble on some construction soon.
     
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    I wouldn't call it Destination Charging. Those are for Tesla use, primarily, for service, cars to be delivered, and loaners. They may allow some owners to charge if necessary until a Supercharger is completed nearby, I don't know.
     
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    ^ I agree. One of the pics you posted in the SA SC thread shows a gate that would appear to close the entrance to the parking lot although I'm not sure that it is going to remain there once construction is complete.
     
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    That does make sense, but if so they're in a weird place. Unless I'm misinterpreting the photo, those charging stations are going to be along the front edge of the parking lot. If they were meant for the staff to use to charge cars that are in for service, or loaners, demos and inventory cars, it would make more sense to put them behind the building. Per your pictures in the Service Center thread it looks like there's room. On the other hand, how much of a "destination" is a Tesla gallery/service center? Who's going to hang out there long enough to get a worthwhile charge at only 10 to 20 kW? There isn't really anyplace to dine or shop within easy walking distance.

    I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying it seems odd to have HPWC's in such a highly visible location and have them NOT be for customer use.
     
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    It would be destination charging for those whose destination is the Tesla service center. That's not really what we consider to be destination charging though. I think it's just a matter of semantics-- some people call HPWCs "destination chargers".
     
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    Also possible it is a temporary solution until a Supercharger can be approved and installed.

    With the roadblocks they have encountered just getting the Service Center approved, maybe they didn't want to give an excuse to delay opening because of the Supercharger. Obviously forces are at work behind the scenes, so complication on the site could cause unexpected issues.
     

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