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Supercharger - San Diego, CA - Friars Road (Mission Valley, LIVE 31 Jan 2019, 24 Urban + 24 V3 stalls)
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Doug Martoccia
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As a hater of shopping malls, I have mixed feelings on opening a location at a mall. Maybe someday the entire mall can be converted into a Tesla factory.
noah82
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I'd rather it be in a mall than a paid parking lot downtown.
twonius
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Warning: Irresponsible FUD ahead
How many of these stalls will regularly be occupied by:
1.) Tesla Test Drive Cars
2.) Valet parking (I know it's a bit of a jog for the valet, but seems like a handy way for them to "juice" their tips by providing this extra benefit)
How many of these stalls will regularly be occupied by:
1.) Tesla Test Drive Cars
2.) Valet parking (I know it's a bit of a jog for the valet, but seems like a handy way for them to "juice" their tips by providing this extra benefit)
twonius
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eh they'd have to move the car anyway after its charged. If you rack up a bunch of idling fees on my car it's not gonna be great for your tip.
The test drive cars have HPWCs in one of the garages already and don't do that many miles.
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twonius
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Drove by desperate for juice on Saturday, was disappointed to see there were no destination chargers like at A street.
twonius
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From my Perspective:
1) Too much supercharging can lead to your car's charge speed being nerfed
2) I may want to leave the car sitting for longer than 30-40 minutes without moving it (especially at the mall). Destination chargers still put out a healthy 10kw or so, meaning a couple hours of charging adds appreciable range. I use the Blink chargers at the LOT when i watch movies for this reason.
From Tesla's Perspective
Much..Much cheaper to put in than supercharger stalls and the power is cheaper too since there's less demand charges (set by your peak power consumption). So adding a few destination chargers would reduce demand for supercharger stalls without adding a lot of cost.
Frankly I'm amazed that no malls have just put in 10 destination chargers on their own. Seems like a cheap way to get a bunch of people with disposable income to visit your shopping center for hours at a time.
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I agree, at malls like this at least. But I wonder by the time they pay for the space, permits, physical installation, etc how much more in comparison is is for superchargers. Plus, destination chargers AFAIK don't have the tech to be able to bill people without free supercharging, or deal with idle fees. So I could see someone leaving it on a destination charger for way longer than they really need..
Go into the Tesla store. They've said to me that they will allow owners to charge via their Wall Connectors that are usually used for the test drive cars.
noah82
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The UTC store did not allow me to charge when I asked. Before the Model 3 launched they were more than willing to accommodate. Unfortunately things have changed.
twonius
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"Things have changed" is the unofficial motto of Tesla Customer Service.
hgpayne
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Camino Del Sur started working today. Anyone been by here today to see if they switched this one on too?
At 1PM, the black plastic bags were still draped over the chargers.
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Graffi
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Woke up early this morning and It is raining, a heavy rain for San Diego, but just a light rain from those areas of the country that get lots of rain.
Anyway, the weather app on my phone shows several days of rain this next week. Maybe they will wait until AFTER this parking lot floods before they turn on this Supercharger.
For those who have not been to San Diego, we get so little rain each year that when it DOES rain it has a tendency to freak out so many San Diego drivers, and flood many of the lower roads, such as the back entrance to this Supercharger location. The front entrance, through the Mall parking area, is on higher ground and does not flood. However it does have HEAVY traffic.
Anyway, the weather app on my phone shows several days of rain this next week. Maybe they will wait until AFTER this parking lot floods before they turn on this Supercharger.
For those who have not been to San Diego, we get so little rain each year that when it DOES rain it has a tendency to freak out so many San Diego drivers, and flood many of the lower roads, such as the back entrance to this Supercharger location. The front entrance, through the Mall parking area, is on higher ground and does not flood. However it does have HEAVY traffic.
hgpayne
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From "Active Weather Alerts" in my weather app.
There is the potential of mud slides and debris flows at recent
burn scars, particularly near the Holy Fire burn scar. Debris
flows can happen suddenly with little time to act. Heed the
advice of local officials. In addition, street flooding is
possible along with the possibility of some road closures. There
is also the possibility of river flooding of the San Diego
River at Fashion Valley.
There is the potential of mud slides and debris flows at recent
burn scars, particularly near the Holy Fire burn scar. Debris
flows can happen suddenly with little time to act. Heed the
advice of local officials. In addition, street flooding is
possible along with the possibility of some road closures. There
is also the possibility of river flooding of the San Diego
River at Fashion Valley.
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