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What happened at Buena Park?
See this thread starting at post 235What happened at Buena Park?
I would not be at all surprised if this is a deliberate attempt to minimize SDG&E's demand charges. During what rate periods does this happen?
The line probably would have been worse if Carlsbad weren't open, so I'm going to disagree with this statement./s Good to see that Carlsbad opening didn’t help the popularity of this location at all...
Actually, on-peak time in SDG&E territory is now 1600-2100 (4-9 pm) daily. It shifted because there's now a lot of solar generation during the day. CaISO reports utility-scale solar typically hits 10 GW every day at local noon. There's also a few more GW of rooftop solar, which is behind the meter and therefore seen as a mid-day reduction in demand.I must admit, I have noticed it mostly during high-noon, which is likely peak power usage time..
But if they did, then I have to believe that Q employees would send a S^$^storm toward their own management. The fees are so desperately needed to encourage employees not to use this as their all-day parking spot. Have routinely seen people leave their new Model 3's carrying a work bag into the building.
This has probably been discussed but I can't find it... So I assume the reason for no idle fees here is that Qualcomm wouldn't allow it... but at what point should Tesla pull a little power move and threaten to pull the plug unless Qualcomm acquiesces to such fees? Maybe they don't even care to try to do this? But if they did, then I have to believe that Q employees would send a S^$^storm toward their own management. The fees are so desperately needed to encourage employees not to use this as their all-day parking spot. Have routinely seen people leave their new Model 3's carrying a work bag into the building.
I went one time before work (forgot to charge the night before and would have trouble getting home without some juice). It was 8am on a weekday, and it quickly reached capacity just before I got there and queued 4 cars. It seemed like every car that pulled in a stall while I was waiting walked straight into the building with a bag. Would not be surprised if half are taken by employees at any given time during business hours. Only the ones who have any shame will come back in an hour or so and move to a non charging spot (quite a few of the nearby spots are filled with Teslas, and those must certainly belong to employees)What's your estimate of users of this location, Q employees vs Non-Q employees?
One possibility would be to pay those fees directly back to Qualcomm, or donate to charity! Post a sign that says "Idle fees support..." In any case, the fees aren't meant to pay for anything, per se, they just discourage selfish behavior.What has been stated many times up thread is that Qualcomm pays for the electricity at this supercharger. And then one could assume that Tesla doesn't charge fees because of this (either because it would be illegal or merely because they feel it would be unethical).
I'm still amazed that people continue to bang their head against the wall and try to use this supercharger over and over again. It is the definition of insanity!
What has been stated many times up thread is that Qualcomm pays for the electricity at this supercharger. And then one could assume that Tesla doesn't charge fees because of this (either because it would be illegal or merely because they feel it would be unethical).
I'm still amazed that people continue to bang their head against the wall and try to use this supercharger over and over again. It is the definition of insanity!