Supercharger - Santa Ana, CA (12 V2 stalls)

[ggumz]

Each stall is numbered on the bottom of the pedestal.

I'll definitely pay more attention next time, didn't even notice that.

As a new owner, I think it's also worth asking if you are aware that when entering a paired stall already occupied (say 1A is occupied and you pull into 1B), you are going to have a lower charge rate until their car reaches a certain capacity. Also, if your car is dramatically low on charge, the charge rate you draw under, say, 20%, would be much lower than if you pulled in and charged when you were at 60%.

Admittedly I was not aware of that, but it totally makes sense, thanks!

Is such severe fluctuation normal? Throughout the duration of my charge, it kept rising and falling between 30-80kwh. For reference, I started charging with 39% battery and disconnected at 81%.

 

[cybergates]

this location needs a ton more urban chargers maybe just inside on the first floor of the parking structure right across from the existing high speed chargers.

 

[DDotJ]

Looks like the Supercharger is getting some TLC tonight to address some of the issues you folks were having. I was driving home around 12 am (Tuesday) and the location was listed as temporarily closed on the nav display. Hopefully it's maintenance on this location.

 

[PLUS EV]

I'm too lazy to read through this entire thread, but IIRC, this location has had power issues ever since I have been driving Teslas which is almost 2 years now. Hopefully they get it right with this round of maintenance.

 

[ecarfan]

Moderator note: 4 posts moved to a new thread at Managing Supercharger demand in partnership with the utilities

Good discussion, just not specific to the Santa Ana Supercharger so it was moved to a more appropriate forum. Any questions, PM me. Thanks.

 

[ucmndd]

I’m pulling 96kw right now, which is basically full tilt on my 75 battery, so maybe the recent maintenance did the trick.

 

[rxlawdude]

I’m pulling 96kw right now, which is basically full tilt on my 75 battery, so maybe the recent maintenance did the trick.

That's weird, as I routinely get (with 10% SOC entering the Santa Ana Supercharger) 115-118kW. Follows the general pattern: Supercharger(kW)=125 - SOC

 

[P85_DA]

That's weird, as I routinely get (with 10% SOC entering the Santa Ana Supercharger) 115-118kW. Follows the general pattern: Supercharger(kW)=125 - SOC

I do to ...I think prev poster had smaller battery so maybe he hit his taper earlier ?

 

[MIT_S60]

That's weird, as I routinely get (with 10% SOC entering the Santa Ana Supercharger) 115-118kW. Follows the general pattern: Supercharger(kW)=125 - SOC

I believe the 70 was a 400V battery whereas the 75 is a 350V battery, hence the difference in max supercharging speeds (about 120 kW versus 100 kW)..

 

[MP3Mike]

I believe the 70 was a 400V battery whereas the 75 is a 350V battery, hence the difference in max supercharging speeds (about 120 kW versus 100 kW)..

No, the same voltage at 350. But the 70 kWh battery is made with the cells from the 85s, while the 75 is made with cells from the 90. The new formulation in the 75s/90s can't take a charge as fast as the formulation in the 60/70/85 packs.

 

[MIT_S60]

No, the same voltage at 350. But the 70 kWh battery is made with the cells from the 85s, while the 75 is made with cells from the 90. The new formulation in the 75s/90s can't take a charge as fast as the formulation in the 60/70/85 packs.

Ahhh that was it, thanks for the correction!

 

[PLUS EV]

There's a throttling issue as well. My S90D got throttled right away and never got more than 95kW from that point on. My S100D is still getting up to 119kW. Hundreds of supercharges on each car.

 

[AMPd]

There's a throttling issue as well. My S90D got throttled right away and never got more than 95kW from that point on. My S100D is still getting up to 119kW. Hundreds of supercharges on each car.

What was your state of charge? That doesn’t sound like throttling.

 

[PLUS EV]

What was your state of charge? That doesn’t sound like throttling.

I'm talking about my max charge rate over hundreds of supercharges. So yes, it was throttled.

 

[AMPd]

I'm talking about my max charge rate over hundreds of supercharges. So yes, it was throttled.

Max charge rate differs based on your battery’s state of charge and temperature of the battery

 

[PLUS EV]

Max charge rate differs based on your battery’s state of charge and temperature of the battery

Thanks for the info man. I actually know a thing or two about supercharging

 

[AMPd]

Thanks for the info man. I actually know a thing or two about supercharging

I’m sure you do, I wasn’t trying to say that you don’t
What I was trying to say is 95kw is not throttling, considetinb a while back actual throttling was happening where cars wouldn’t charge faster than 60kw

 

[PLUS EV]

I’m sure you do, I wasn’t trying to say that you don’t
What I was trying to say is 95kw is not throttling, considetinb a while back actual throttling was happening where cars wouldn’t charge faster than 60kw

Well I was consistently topping out in the 85-95kW range with my S90D and with the S100D, I'm consistently topping out at 110+kW. That is a big difference. Also there are threads about the topic and it seems to be a phenomenon that was fairly unique the 90 battery packs.

 

[MP3Mike]

’m sure you do, I wasn’t trying to say that you don’t
What I was trying to say is 95kw is not throttling, considetinb a while back actual throttling was happening where cars wouldn’t charge faster than 60kw

95kW is where the 90 packs get throttled to after a "large" number of DC fast charge sessions. (It has nothing to do with the Supercharger site.)

 

[smilepak]

Rate currently. All stalls used. Came with less than 40 miles left.