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Supercharger - St George, UT

Missile Toad

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So, it appears the site has gone from 4 charging stalls to 12 sometime in June. Can anybody comment on why Tesla -- who is supposed to be the great and powerful Oz of Superchargers, can't count the correct number of operating stalls, two weeks later? See Tesla site .
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Yanquetino

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Ivins, Utah (St. George area)
So, it appears the site has gone from 4 charging stalls to 12 sometime in June. Can anybody comment on why Tesla -- who is supposed to be the great and powerful Oz of Superchargers, can't count the correct number of operating stalls, two weeks later? See Tesla site .
Well… both you and Tesla are wrong. The 4 original Superchargers were replaced with 8 new ones —not 12. Perhaps the 4 temporary stations on 2 pallets in use during the construction confused you…? (See my posts on the previous page, as well as my blurb about the project.) You are right, however, that Tesla still needs to update its information for the site. I imagine they are somewhat behind, given all the new Superchargers being installed nationwide, let alone the Model 3 premiere to prepare for next week…?
 
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ecarfan

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So, it appears the site has gone from 4 charging stalls to 12 sometime in June. Can anybody comment on why Tesla -- who is supposed to be the great and powerful Oz of Superchargers, can't count the correct number of operating stalls, two weeks later?
My suggestion is that instead of publicly -- and anonymously -- insulting Tesla by saying that they can't count up to 12, why not contact Tesla and suggest they correct their online info? That would be a more constructive approach.
 

Missile Toad

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@ecarfan I figure that Tesla will correct it in Tesla time. And it is no insult to accurately state that they do not have the correct information. Further, I have found, in previous direct communications with Tesla that they put my correction requests on the back burner and 60 days later, a correction is made. So, they know what they've done. They know what they are doing.

Rather, I feel that Tesla owners should be aware, that the Tesla DB has a low, but measurable error rate (e.g., identifying as 'public charging', stations 1,000 miles away; incorrectly stating the address of a location). If there is a takeaway from these events, it is this: either call Tesla for a current status of a Tesla charger, or seek out corroborating details either here at TMC or in Plugshare.com
 
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smilepak

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@ecarfan I figure that Tesla will correct it in Tesla time. And it is no insult to accurately state that they do not have the correct information. Further, I have found, in previous direct communications with Tesla that they put my correction requests on the back burner and 60 days later, a correction is made. So, they know what they've done. They know what they are doing.

Rather, I feel that Tesla owners should be aware, that the Tesla DB has a low, but measurable error rate (e.g., identifying as 'public charging', stations 1,000 miles away; incorrectly stating the address of a location). If there is a takeaway from these events, it is this: either call Tesla for a current status of a Tesla charger, or seek out corroborating details either here at TMC or in Plugshare.com

I feel that the update should occur real time and automatic. If they they are capable of showing how many charging spot is available and going to future us it to accurately charge people who idle park in these spots and/or don't have unlimited charging capability, they should have the ability to wireless update their master database how many stalls are available and constantly monitor each of their capacity/rate of charge.

I would understand maybe a week delay after it get setup and for things to sync, but beyond that in this technology wireless connectivity world, it is a miss opportunity on their end.
 
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Nosken

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Well… both you and Tesla are wrong. The 4 original Superchargers were replaced with 8 new ones —not 12. Perhaps the 4 temporary stations on 2 pallets in use during the construction confused you…? (See my posts on the previous page, as well as my blurb about the project.) You are right, however, that Tesla still needs to update its information for the site. I imagine they are somewhat behind, given all the new Superchargers being installed nationwide, let alone the Model 3 premiere to prepare for next week…?

Thanks for the update, and the great info on your web site. I will be using this charger in August. Gracias
 
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CraigW

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Here is a link to a local who drives a Leaf, but has a Model 3 reservation. I charged my Tesla overnight at his house in 2014, before a supercharger was installed and have visited several times since. What's interesting are not only his comments, but his daily pictures of the week it took to build out this supercharger location. Well worth the read through. A week must be nearly a record.
Casteyanqui.com | Electric Vehicles | Supercharger Expansion in St. George
 

mathwhiz

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Feb 6, 2014
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St George Supercharger has been vandalized overnight. Been reported to the Supercharger team. The outermost stalls 1A, 4A & 4B are inop. All the others seem to work at reduced service when used *gingerly*. Charge rates are reduced, but usable... The vandals used something, perhaps an electric drill with a large bit to drill into the wands’ contacts. The ones inop had their contacts cut out... When I first arrived, I saw a smashed glass in the Starbucks drive-thru ordering station, but Starbucks mgr said that happened a month ago... Be advised. SC Team said they’d dispatch repair and get a reduced service message up in the cars, but nothing as yet.
 

Yanquetino

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Dec 2, 2007
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Ivins, Utah (St. George area)
Before the St George Supercharger opened, the manager at The Inn on the Cliff installed a simple NEMA 14-50 outlet with 40 amp charging. I've used it 3 times, staying there overnight on the long Los Angles - Park City Utah trip. Until the SC is fully repaired, it's an option, though a slow one. Inn on the Cliff - St. George, Utah Boutique Hotel
At least 5 of the 8 Superchargers are still working, but should be plugged and unplugged carefully. There are also Tesla Destination Chargers in our area at all three Best Western motels, the Inn at Entrada, the Kayenta Village Inn, and the My Place Hotel.
 

Yanquetino

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Dec 2, 2007
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Ivins, Utah (St. George area)
What's the status today, please? I'm about to head that way from Vegas, toward Colorado. In-car says reduced service and wants to route via a much longer path. Thanks for any info.
As far as I know, the 5 working stations are still working. I'll swing by there in about an hour and see. Now, _IF_ your Tesla has sufficient range with a 100% charge, it is possible to drive from the Las Vegas Superchargers on Bridger Avenue to the Beaver, UT, Superchargers (221 miles). (I assume you intend to go through Beaver, anyway, to then connect to I-70 to Colorado?) To be on the safe side, however, it would be prudent to drive slightly below the speed limit, as there is a steep climb from St. George to Cedar City. Alternatively, you could stop for a meal at the Eureka Casino in Mesquite, as there are two Destination Chargers there to add some miles while you eat. Hope this helps!
 
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smilepak

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May 11, 2015
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Sad. People just can’t think outside of their little box. They failed to realize these SC attract people to local businesses that normally otherwise would not get these added traffic. That bring in money to the city.

I’ve used this SC once on the way from Vegas to Zion. It was a good stop.
 

PLUS EV

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As far as I know, the 5 working stations are still working. I'll swing by there in about an hour and see. Now, _IF_ your Tesla has sufficient range with a 100% charge, it is possible to drive from the Las Vegas Superchargers on Bridger Avenue to the Beaver, UT, Superchargers (221 miles). (I assume you intend to go through Beaver, anyway, to then connect to I-70 to Colorado?) To be on the safe side, however, it would be prudent to drive slightly below the speed limit, as there is a steep climb from St. George to Cedar City. Alternatively, you could stop for a meal at the Eureka Casino in Mesquite, as there are two Destination Chargers there to add some miles while you eat. Hope this helps!
Sounds like it doesn't matter now since he successfully charged at St. George, but no amount of slow driving was going to allow his S75D to make it from Vegas to Beaver without charging somewhere along the way. The elevation gain is a killer and the temps are probably cool ish, but even in summer it's hard to imagine that working. The other direction is a different story.
 

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