Supercharger v3 - Live Wednesday 03/06

[airj1012]

"First public Tesla V3.0 Supercharger Station goes live Wed 8pm"

Elon Musk on Twitter

Can we find it before Wednesday?!

supercharge.info

 

[Kuhz]

So which ones are almost opening ready? Nothing in the state of WA.

@BlueShift @PLUS EV @ecarfan any ideas?

 

[Uncle Paul]

I predict Kettleman...

They have solar, battery backup and perhaps better data gathering with what ever is sourcing that huge video of world wide Supercharger usage.

Time for another Get Together Party at Kettleman...

 

[Chuq]

Is it an existing site being upgraded? somewhere new? Secret? Remember back to the original supercharger launch, they built 4 sites in secret without anyone knowing, mostly between SF-LA-LV. It was easy for them when no-one knew what to look for. SC v3 will probably also be in California between LA and SF. Activity at any existing site would have been noticed. If it is an entirely new site, there would be limited locations left on that route. Get scouting, Californians

 

[ucmndd]

I predict Kettleman...

They have solar, battery backup and perhaps better data gathering with what ever is sourcing that huge video of world wide Supercharger usage.

Time for another Get Together Party at Kettleman...

Kettleman’s too important for peak volume to go first (should things go wrong) and way too conspicuous. No chance they could do a 40 stall retrofit there without someone noticing.

That said another site on I-5 came to mind as a likely candidate as the fast speeds will be most beneficial for long distance travel.

Gustine, Harris Ranch, Bakersfield, or Buttonwillow would seem to be decent guesses.

Unless it’s just a showcase site somewhere in the Bay Area. That’s possible too.

 

[SageBrush]

Exciting !

I'll be the first to put my foot in my mouth and make a guess:
350 kW per pedestal, up to 175 kW per cable. No more A/B sharing

 

[TaoJones]

Hawthorne.

 

[electracity]

So new gigfactory packs for the S/X?

Perhaps the S/X price cut is for "old" inventory.

 

[ucmndd]

So new gigfactory packs for the S/X?

Perhaps the S/X price cut is for "old" inventory.

I don’t think so. The 100 pack should be able to easily benefit from higher charge rates. The 75 was discontinued, in my opinion, for exactly this reason.

 

[mikevbf]

I don’t think so. The 100 pack should be able to easily benefit from higher charge rates. The 75 was discontinued, in my opinion, for exactly this reason.

What about the standard range Model S? Does it have a bigger battery pack than the 75?

 

[TacC]

What about the standard range Model S? Does it have a bigger battery pack than the 75?

Standard Range S supposedly has a software-limited 100 kWh pack.

 

[electracity]

I don’t think so. The 100 pack should be able to easily benefit from higher charge rates. The 75 was discontinued, in my opinion, for exactly this reason.

The S/X margins would be better if they used a new gigafactory pack design. I'm not sure if they have the engineering capacity to make that change, but we have both the supercharger V3 announcement and the S/X price reduction.

Tesla probably would not want to put R&D into the older pack design to upgrade to faster charging

 

[SageBrush]

I keep wondering why the Model 3 does not charge faster than ~ 115 kW with CCS chargers rated up to 175 kW.
And more to the point, is the Model 3 rate limited to 115 kW on a V3 Supercharger ?

I hope not, but I'm very excited about V3 regardless since it probably does away with the sharing penalty and will soon enough support batteries that can offset carbon emissions by installing local clean energy.

 

[electracity]

I keep wondering why the Model 3 does not charge faster than ~ 115 kW with CCS chargers rated up to 175 kW.
And more to the point, is the Model 3 rate limited to 115 kW on a V3 Supercharger ?

I hope not, but I'm very excited about V3 regardless since it probably does away with the sharing penalty and will soon enough support batteries that can offset carbon emissions by installing local clean energy.

I don't see, in areas with demand chargers, how Tesla could not do pedestal sharing. But it certainly is a way to improve both peak station throughput and user satisfaction.

I think the model 3 is software limited on charging to 1) get the future marketing bump for "software upgrade". 2) So the M3 LR does not greatly exceed the charging speed of the S/X.

I continue to talk myself into the prediction of new S/X batteries arriving shortly.

 

[SageBrush]

I don't see, in areas with demand chargers, how Tesla could not do pedestal sharing.

Battery, I presume.

 

[Byeehaaw]

do you think they would bump up urban supercharging speeds?

 

[Rogue one]

do you think they would bump up urban supercharging speeds?

My guess is no, I believe urban chargers are designed to safely charge the cars everyday and the faster 200 KW will be recommend only while traveling and or infrequent charging. Just my guess.

 

[EVie'sDad]

Looks like it will be in Washington state.

Tesla Supercharger V3.0 will be 200 kW and liquid-cooled, says source

 

[SageBrush]

My fingers are crossed that liquid cooled cables can also be a little longer. The current generation are *just* enough, but I find I have to correct my parking to get close enough for use.

 

[ReddyLeaf]

How about I-80 between Fremont and GF1? It could be a perfect opportunity to build a semi mega-charger and SC V3 at the same time. Certainly useful for testing the semi and transport between the two facilities. If there wasn’t a ton of snow, Truckee might be a good location. That said, it will probably be at a Tesla facility, maybe that unfinished one, Fremont #2, here: Supercharger 47400 Kato Road, Fremont (Construction started Oct 2014, pedestals removed Aug 2018)