Superchargers capped at 80% in some locations

[j-rho]

Be aware should this impact your trip planning in any way. No indication on the map of the policy. Experienced today at my local SC which was less than half full.

Maybe just an inconvenience for some but for those of us who tow or otherwise push range limits regularly, this may be catastrophic.

 

[Ludalicious]

One can assume more people will encounter idling fees now. You can generally get back in plenty of time due to the charging being tapered off near full charge. But hits 80% much faster. Even on road trips I generally on charge to 80% anyways. The last 10-20 charges so slow

 

[j-rho]

They say you can get more than 80% if using the trip planner, but I tried that and it didn’t work, still stopped me at 80%. Maybe because there were superchargers to stop along the way.

I’m not worried about the early stoppage, worried about not being able the leg to the next station.

 

[Silicon Desert]

There are other threads about this from two days ago. Would be nice to just merge this stuff into one.

 

[mtapes]

Just returned from Palm Bay, FL SC.

• 8 stalls - 2 used (including me)
• Told me of 80% limit.
• But allows me to charge to any level (I assume because of open stalls)
• Needs improved messaging, but overall, a good thing IMO

 

[j-rho]

Sorry for dupe thread, mods please merge.

My SC cut off at 80% as promised.

 

[redgt]

anyone have a list of SC that are capped?

If the station is not full the cap should not be used. Tesla needs to make this change if possible

 

[kiwi]

Sure hope that doesn't happen down our way.
The superchargers heading south of me are spaced at:
278km (Auckland to Taupo) and 251km (Taupo to Palmerston North).
80% wont be enough in an MX75
Fortunately there are plenty of Chademo chargers around.

 

[forkee]

Downey, CA supercharger says capped to 80% but was able to adjust slider to 100. only 3/12 stalls occupied at start but got to 10/12 by the time we left at 94%

 

[lakemirror]

Ocala Florida gave me this message last weekend. I needed all the juice I could get to make it to Cedar Key and back. There was only one other car present while I was there, out of 8 stalls.

I can understand a cap if the SC is actually busy, but not if it's empty.

 

[gnuarm]

Ocala Florida gave me this message last weekend. I needed all the juice I could get to make it to Cedar Key and back. There was only one other car present while I was there, out of 8 stalls.

I can understand a cap if the SC is actually busy, but not if it's empty.

Every time I see a feature like this that seems to be not well thought out, I wonder if the same people designed it as designed the fart app?

 

[SW2Fiddler]

Downey, CA supercharger says capped to 80% but was able to adjust slider to 100. only 3/12 stalls occupied at start but got to 10/12 by the time we left at 94%

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At 20kW, one might as well be at a hi-amp L2 Charger.
Which is probably the POINT of the enhancement. Those 10 occupied stalls, ya know...

 

[forkee]

At 20kW, one might as well be at a hi-amp L2 Charger.
Which is probably the POINT of the enhancement. Those 10 occupied stalls, ya know...

right,

it's not really worth it past 90%, pretty useless past 95% as it gets so slow it might as well charge over 120v mobile connector.

 

[Xenoilphobe]

Probably helps protect the battery for longevity.

 

[gnuarm]

right,

it's not really worth it past 90%, pretty useless past 95% as it gets so slow it might as well charge over 120v mobile connector.

That's not accurate at all. 120v charging is barely 1 kW. I don't think I've ever seen charging to 100% at a Supercharger ever reached 1 kW. It did drop below L2 charging rates and to get to the final, won't charge anymore level it once took some 20 extra minutes past reporting 100%. But that was likely a balancing issue which was the exact reason why I was charging to 100%.

 

[gnuarm]

Probably helps protect the battery for longevity.

I wish I had saved the graphs that Elon Musk provided in a Tweet once. They showed the degradation in capacity vs. number of charges for a variety of charge/discharge levels. Charging to 100% was only a little bit worse than 90% and still did not make much difference after 200,000 miles of charging. The graph went out to multiple thousands of charges which is 20 years or more for most users. If you charged every day 1,000 charges is three years. 5,000 charges is 15 years.

 

[DoubleE]

They said all superchargers will be initiate the 80% cap on all major holidays; as well as any location that has high volume of cars.

 

[MP3Mike]

At 20kW, one might as well be at a hi-amp L2 Charger.

Not really since all new Tesla's only support 11.5kW level 2 charging. (at least in the US.)

 

[gnuarm]

They said all superchargers will be initiate the 80% cap on all major holidays; as well as any location that has high volume of cars.

It's not a cap. The default setting on starting a charging session is 80%. You are free to change that, so it's not capped.

 

[DoubleE]

It's not a cap. The default setting on starting a charging session is 80%. You are free to change that, so it's not capped.

Yea, we slid the charge setting and it allowed us to charge more.

Sucky thing is it will change your settings to 80%; so you have to physically update it after you get the notice.