TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker or making a Paypal contribution here: paypal.me/SupportTMC

Superchargers in Hong Kong are not for long distance travel

Discussion in 'Hong Kong' started by csassulthk, Feb 25, 2016.

  1. csassulthk

    csassulthk Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2015
    Messages:
    10
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    To: Mr. Elon Musk

    Owners of Tesla Model S in Hong Kong are selling their wall chargers and queue for the FREE of charge Superchargers!

    Hong Kong would be a small paradise if all cars are electric.

    But Chinese people are frugal even they buy a luxurious car like Model S.

    Please do something to promote the installation of Wall Chargers!
    If not, that would be disastrous for Hong Kong Tesla Model S owners when the Model 3 arrives!

    Thanks in advance.

    Alan Wong
     
  2. Titus

    Titus Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2015
    Messages:
    206
    Location:
    Hong Kong SAR
    Let's not blame it on the frugality of "Chinese people". This is more indication of the dozens of hoops that one has to jump through for wall charger installation. I identify myself as a Chinese but haven't sold my wall charger even though it can't be installed at my residence or near my office. If it's as easy as installing it in my Vancouver home's garage then I would've paid my own electric bill to charge my car; time is money to Chinese people and you can't pay me to wait an hour for a spot and then another 50mins to charge.

    In this respect there's only so much Tesla HK can do to influence the gate keepers: HK gov, building management, etc.

    Things will take time. Tesla and EVs in general only exploded in the last year and half. Let's not jump to conclusions with finger pointing and names.
     
  3. 808?

    808? Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2015
    Messages:
    110
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    As Titus says, most people can not charge at home at this stage, so most of the population of EV users in HK rely on charging away from the home or office, in the case of Tesla owners, we are fortunate to have SC access.

    By the time the Model 3 arrives in HK, there should be some more charging options and solutions available to the masses by then.
     
  4. Optic

    Optic Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2014
    Messages:
    135
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    Tesla now has some installation credit for referral buyers. A good step forward. Issue is with the icing of slow chargers and commercial usage of super chargers. Both detrimental to the push towards ev adoption. 1 in 12 new cars r Tesla's, good luck to us all. If you are a potential Tesla buyer, may this be a warning. Super chargers will soon be useless unless you don't mind lining up for 1 hour +.

    Fyi I had to sell my charger at a steep discount as my landlord won't Even let me use the available 13a spots... let alone install Anything.
     
  5. ediot

    ediot Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    137
    Location:
    HONG KONG
    sadly, often its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission...
     
  6. gubes

    gubes Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2014
    Messages:
    123
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    Tesla VALET service is the obvious answer. Who can I talk to at Tesla to get this suggestion through!!!
     
  7. lx3h

    lx3h Charged.hk TSLA Grp Rep

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2014
    Messages:
    1,302
    Location:
    Hong Kong SAR China
    Contact | Tesla Motors Hong Kong
     
  8. Mille Pun

    Mille Pun Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2015
    Messages:
    111
    Location:
    HK
    It is a compromise and discourage the adoption of EV imo.
    currently, the problem of charging is purely political issue due to the mindset of avoiding change risks (not technical issue). So what tesla should do is trying to break this mindset instead of compromising it. The difficulty in charging would be a big push and demonstration to the government that, HK needs more charging infrastructure!
     
  9. garethmchau

    garethmchau Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2015
    Messages:
    87
    Location:
    Hong Kong
  10. FequalsMA

    FequalsMA Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2016
    Messages:
    115
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    certainly doesn't help that some of our SC aren't open 24hrs.
     
  11. Lerxt

    Lerxt Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2014
    Messages:
    952
    Location:
    Hong Kong/Australia
    It's up to the "frugal" Chinese people to pressure the government to make changes that will benefit the people. One of these moves would be make it mandatory for an estate to install electric charging when a person demands it at a government approved cost.
    Tesla is unlikely to install many more Superchargers and they could never install enough anyway. I think Elon made that clear when he was here.

    It's up to the voice of the people now.
     
  12. Tam

    Tam Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2012
    Messages:
    1,048
    Location:
    Visalia, CA
    I am not sure it is unique in any particular geographic region of the world.

    There have been multiple threads in tesla.com about pro-local vs anti-local Tesla Supercharging in the USA.

    The topic got the attention of the news media and they not only covered the USA but also Europe.

    My proposal is to build more Superchargers to relieve the waiting line.
     
  13. hiroshiy

    hiroshiy Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2013
    Messages:
    1,544
    Location:
    Tokyo, Japan
    We have one in Tokyo as well. It is located at a hotel so drive up to the valet and they'll take care the rest. The problem is that they have only one charger!!
     
  14. angelitali

    angelitali New Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    Any plans on increasing charging stations over here? It's like pot luck here, had a couple of over 1.5hrs wait in line.
     
  15. jsiu

    jsiu Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2015
    Messages:
    150
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    I cannot give you an answer. However, we have to change our habit of refueling. In the era of ICE, we only tanked up when empty. For EV, just plug in whenever is possible and chargers are available. Don't wait for the last moment.
     
    • Like x 1
  16. bhcc15

    bhcc15 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2015
    Messages:
    1
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    The fact that relying only on Superchargers and charging up during weekends would make you frustrated. Need to change your habit and plan ahead—otherwise having 100 superchargers won't be enough.
     
  17. ediot

    ediot Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    137
    Location:
    HONG KONG
    hi angelitali,

    the issue that you mentioned is discussed at length on this forum, i've listed a few of them here:

    Meeting Tesla HK Bus Development Mgr on May 13.......
    Meeting Tesla HK Bus Development Mgr on May 13.......

    Superchargers in Hong Kong is not for long distance travel
    Superchargers in Hong Kong is not for long distance travel

    Jerk who interrupts others charging to get higher amps
    Jerk who interrupts others charging to get higher amps


    hopefully we'll come to a quick solution soon, at least for the temporary situation. And something for the long term future.
     
  18. markwj

    markwj Moderator, Asia Pacific

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Messages:
    3,665
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    Moderator's Note: Merged in another thread about queueing for superchargers in HK.
     
  19. kreutzer

    kreutzer New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2016
    Messages:
    1
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    it is getting quite ridiculous now. Spending Sunday night trapped in a mall parking lot waiting for my turn. It has become more and more difficult to charge and the increase in the charging stations (or lack thereof) is not following the rate of increase of the cars. Tesla needs to install more chargers in Hong Kong.

    Tesla owners also need to show better etiquette. Just had an argument with another Tesla owner in Lee Garden who was asking "where does it say we cannot park at the charging station for more than 3 hours!!" So thick-faced!

    This other guy has not even returned yet. And I have been waiting here for more than an hour White Tesla number plate "SCG" - shame on you!!
     

    Attached Files:

  20. jsiu

    jsiu Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2015
    Messages:
    150
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    In the old days, I always persuaded my friends to go for EV. The above situation did happen to my friends. Now, I re-phrase my recommendation - 'Go for EV if you have a proper charging solution'

    I know Tesla users will get credits by referral but I don't want to upset my friends by simply advising them to go for EV without a caveat.

    The charging situation becomes acute with the real success of Tesla sales. The problem is not only caused by ICE occupying the charging slots but also selfish EV users parking on charging slots without charging.
     

Share This Page