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Superchargers Visited

Discussion in 'Supercharging & Charging Infrastructure' started by Wiki, Mar 2, 2014.

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  1. Bighorn

    Bighorn Top Supercharger

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    Wait, what?! I’m in Maryland and I don’t see anything!
     
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  2. tes-s

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    Minnesota, not Maryland. He was trying to keep other competitors off balance. :)
     
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  3. Shesmyne2"

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  4. Half Dollar Bill

    Half Dollar Bill Traveller, teacher, poet, accountant, innkeeper

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    Nice score on all accounts!
     
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  5. Boilermaker

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    Think I have my first, first visit.

    Hudsonville, MI is live as of 8/16/19.

    Can someone add for me?

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  6. simonsmidt

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    From 102 you can update me to 104 as I've used:
    Gouda, The Netherlands
    Waver, Belgium.

    These I know for sure. Who can help me find out which SuC's I've used before? I used the previous list to note also the new SuC's I've used. Since the previous versions 1.0 and 2.0 are now overwritten with the new spreadsheet I can't recover it anymore.
     
  7. JSergeant

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    Here's your list from Nov 30, 2018 when your count showed as 103:

    Austria (4): Kitzbühel; Lermoos; Innsbruck; Bregenz
    Belgium (10): Aalst; Machelen; Ghent (Closed); Nivelles-Sud; Arlon; Aartselaar; Kortrijk; Verviers; Antwerp; Heusden-Zolder
    Denmark (2): Middelfart; Randers
    France (23): Beaune; Metz; Nancy; Chambéry Barberaz; Lille; Senlis; Aix-en-Provence; Caen; Cagnes-sur-Mer; Calais; Chambéry; Matougues; Langon; Mâcon; Chapelle-sur-Erdre; Narbonne; Rennes; Rouen; Saintes; Toulouse; Valenciennes; Mulhouse; Strasbourg (100th)
    Germany (15): Achern; Mogendorf; Irschenberg; Moers; Ulm; Jettingen-Scheppach; Emsbüren; Erftstadt; Stuhr (Bremen-Brinkum); Rade; Aichstetten; Leonberg-Ost; Kaiserslautern Eselsfürth; Bad Rappenau; Waldlaubersheim
    Italy (10): Fano; Modena; Brennero; Affi; Arezzo; Trento; Varazze; Piacenza; Campogalliano; Carpiano
    Liechtenstein (1): Schaan
    Luxembourg (1): Mënsbech
    The Netherlands (12): Oosterhout; Zwolle; Amsterdam; Urmond; Drachten; Eindhoven; Zevenaar; Dordrecht; Hoorn; Emmeloord; Breukelen; Breda
    Norway (9): Setermoen; Solli; Aksdal; Haukås; Grong; Innhavet; Nebbenes; Sandane; Dombås
    Sweden (3): Falkenberg; Löddeköpinge; Uddevalla
    Switzerland (3): Beckenried; Monte Ceneri/Rivera; Flüelen
    United Kingdom (10): Dartford; Grantham; Chorley; Stoke-on-Trent Northbound; Washington; Winchester - Norton Park; Maidstone; Abington; Gretna Green; Sarn
     
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  8. tes-s

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    #5968 tes-s, Aug 16, 2019
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    updated

    Congrats on being first to charge there!
     
  9. PLUS EV

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    Well I sadly joined the ranks of Tesla owners who have run out of charge and need to be flat-bedded to the supercharger. I guess it took over 170k miles for this to happen so I had a good run!

    As with most such blunders, there were multiple factors that led to the situation. I left Sunriver, OR with about 150 rated miles remaining. I was headed out to dinner with my family who were vacationing in the area and then headed home afterwards so we were driving separately. I had thought the restaurant was in Sunriver, but it was in fact in Bend, in fact it was quite a ways north of the Bend supercharger. Had I known that I would have left earlier and stopped for a top-off. But at dinner, I figured I could make it to The Dalles supercharger fairly easily so I decided not to back track to the Bend supercharger.

    When I routed to The Dalles, the Nav said I would make it with 7% remaining, but that number quickly dropped to 4 and then 3%. Still nothing alarming compared to some of the drives I have done. The sun had just gone down and the temps were perfect for driving with no heat or a/c and of course I had the suspension low and all the other typical hypermiling techniques. There was some wind, which appeared to be more of a crosswind, but it must have had some effect because I was not driving very fast and the percentage kept ticking down to 2, then 1, then 0. Still I have been in this situation many times and wasn't too concerned. I just started driving much more slowly with about 25 miles left in the trip. I had been going 5 over and then right at the speed limit, but now I was going 45 and then 35 in 55 and 65 zones (basically no traffic on this lonely country highway so that was not a big deal).

    Now, this leg had a big elevation drop which was one of the reasons I was confident I'd make it, but it is of course disconcerting when you have 25 miles left and only 17 rated miles remaining. Still I knew I had at least a 1k ft elevation drop so I thought I'd be fine. And in fact, by the math, I should have been fine. Right before the car started to shut down it even said I would make it with 1% remaining. At this point I had 5 rated miles remaining and about 7 miles left to go, but I was about to come over the crest of a hill and have an immediate 800 ft elevation drop so I (and the Nav) felt like I would make it without much issue. Unfortunately right before the crest of the hill, I got the warning that the battery was low and I should pull over soon. I kept going over the top off the hill and coasted down it, but at this point I guess the battery was so low that the regen didn't work and this really cost me.

    Still, I get to the bottom of the hill and I have 4 miles left to go and 5 rated miles left on my screen, so I attempt to keep going. Again, there's no traffic and I obviously avoid getting on the freeway and stick to the right lane of a country road that is going into the town of The Dalles. The car is still giving me all the warnings to pull over but with 5 rated miles showing, I figure it's worth a shot. I make it about a mile down that country road and 2 rated miles tick off when the accelerator completely loses power, so at that point I coast to a stop on a (forunately) wide shoulder. At this point I was 3 miles from the supercharger and the battery shows 3 rated miles remaining so needless to say I was not pleased!

    I was able to get a tow truck in less than an hour and we towed to the fortunately vacant supercharger in the hotel parking lot and I mostly charged without issue from that point on. Still it was not a fun experience.

    I guess the moral of the story is to be extremely careful when cutting it close when hills are involved and to not rely on downhill regen at very low SOCs. I had previously driven down to 0 or 1 rated mile remaining on many occasions, often speeding up as I got closer to the supercharger and arriving at 0 or 1 on purpose. I will definitely reconsider this strategy!

    Also on this trip, my car was getting very slow charge rates at superchargers. It was different but similar to what I remember with my nerfed S90D. So this was very frustrating and part of me is wondering if this is somehow related to running out of battery early. This was only a brief 4-supercharger trip so I will have to withhold judgment until I make a longer trip, but the behavior was the same at all 4 superchargers so it isn't looking good.
     
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  10. PLUS EV

    PLUS EV Running on Empty

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    These are pics I took after I no longer had any power and was pulled over on the side of the road. The rated miles remaining went from 3, down to 2 (pictured), then back up to 3 and then snapped down to 0.

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  11. JSergeant

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    Sorry to hear about that George. It sounds very strange. According to your second picture, you drove 84.8 miles (presumably from the restaurant), averaging 272 Wh/mile. That sounds high for that stretch of road unless the wind was quite strong. Looking at EV Trip planner, on an S90D it estimates 223 Wh/mile for the Bend to The Dalles stretch at normal speeds. I assume the 100D wouldn't be much different.
     
  12. Big Earl

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    Yikes. 3 miles is cutting it close ... less that 1%. That’s putting a lot of faith in there being a small margin of error.

    I keep mine on % and try not to run it down below 5%, but I probably would have been caught out in similar conditions. Missing regen on the downhill is interesting... I’ve never heard someone report that.

    Tesla seems to have changed quite a bit with the 18650-powered cars recently. Range loss, charging speed reductions and changes in the car’s rated range calculations that force you to drive more conservatively to achieve rated range.
     
  13. JSergeant

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    Actually, I take it back. I didn't notice that you said you left Sunriver, OR with about 150 rated miles remaining. According to EV Trip Planner it is 146 miles to The Dalles, and it calculates 153 rated miles needed at normal speed, but that calculation is very sensitive to the temperature and the wind, although keeping your speed down should have done the trick. It would be interesting to know more about the loss of regen on the downhill - I also have never heard of that on a low battery,
     
  14. PLUS EV

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    I stopped to go to the bathroom at a McDonald's in Madras so the 84.8 miles is from that point. I made like a quarter mile detour to make that stop and believe me I was regretting it later, because I think that may have been the difference. I kept thinking back to so many things that went wrong while I was waiting for the tow truck lol. Slow charge rate at the Bend supercharger when I arrived a few days prior had me unplugging with a lower SOC than I had planned. Then the outdoor 110V outlet at the house we were staying at didn't work. Then I made a wrong turn that cost me like 10 miles on a drive to the Lava Lands. And of course I mentioned not being aware that we were going to a restaurant north of Bend in my previous post. And lastly, I had to slam on the brakes for a massive elk on the shoulder just north of Madras. Even something that small was likely the difference between making it to the crest of that hill and getting regen before the car started to shut down.

    Also, the S100D is heavier than your car so maybe that explains the high wh/mi? 272 is insanely good for me, at least when I am not trying to hypermile.
     
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    Wrt the loss of regen, the hill was super steep and I had to brake a lot to slow down so that was super frustrating. I even did a scroll reset as I descended, hoping that would somehow get the regen working again (longshot I know), but it didn't. Also tried a scroll reset and a full power off after I completely ran out of juice, but that didn't help anything either. The 12V did keep the dash and the Nav screen operating all the way until I got to the supercharger with the tow truck, so that was good because I couldn't shift to Neutral and I needed to put it in tow mode. Not sure what we would have done if that had gone out prior to putting it in tow mode.

    Lastly, it seemed strange that I couldn't manually open the chargeport when I got to the supercharger. For some reason, in my excited state, I forgot to try pushing the button on the charger and I was really having a hard time figuring out how to open the chargeport for a minute. Nav screen was dark and app wasn't communicating with the car at that point. But then the chargeport just seemed to magically open so I quickly plugged in and was relieved.
     
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  16. Shesmyne2"

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    Thank you
     
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  17. NKYTA

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    Indeed!

    Apparently the belt buckle kudos - and secret handshake got lost for the first Century Club for @Shesmyne2"

    Being a Five+ Century Club Member that watched her do it, and paid the price to see it, in real time, I still win.

    Welcome to the Century Club my wife!!
     
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  18. PLUS EV

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    Okay I'm going to copy and paste my first post of 128 superchargers below and then insert month/year in bold. Most states will be easy because they were all in the same month, but some of the western states will be more complicated because they were on multiple trips. I had some minor uncertainties with the dates on some Oregon and Arizona superchargers, but I'm pretty sure I got them right. I had some major uncertainties with the California superchargers. I am confident that I visited the ones listed in September 2016, but the rest I can only say were in February or March of 2017.

    Washington-6 (all but Kennewick)
    September 2016
    Burlington, Centralia
    November 2016
    Ritzville
    Ellensburg
    December 2016
    Aberdeen
    April 2017
    Monroe

    Oregon-11 (all but Bandon and Detroit Lake)
    September 2016
    Seaside, Lincoln City, Woodburn, Springfield, Grants Pass
    January 2017
    Baker City, Pendleton
    April 2017
    Klamath Falls, Bend, Sandy, The Dalles

    California-41
    September 2016
    Crescent City, Eureka, Ukiah, Mt. Shasta, Petaluma, Gilroy, Seaside, Buellton, Barstow, Fountain Valley, San Diego
    February/March 2017
    El Centro, Corning, Truckee North, Truckee South, Napa, Vacaville, Manteca, Dublin, Mountain View, Fremont, Gustine, Fresno, Harris Ranch, Buttonwillow, Bakersfield, Tejon Ranch, Atascadero, Oxnard, Mammoth Lakes, Lone Pine, Inyokern, Mojave, Needles, Twentynine Palms, Indio, Cabazon, Rancho Cucamonga, Santa Ana, Temecula, San Juan Capistrano

    Nevada-11 (all but Gardnerville)
    September 2016
    Primm, Las Vegas North, Beatty, Tonopah, Hawthorne, Reno
    March 2017
    Lovelock, Winnemucca, Elko, West Wendover, Las Vegas-South

    Arizona-10 (all but Page)
    October 2016
    Kingman, Flagstaff, Holbrook, Cordes Lakes, Casa Grande, Buckeye, Wickenburg
    March 2017
    Yuma, Quartzsite, Gila Bend

    Utah-6
    January 2017
    Tremonton, Salt Lake City, Nephi, Beaver, St. George
    March 2017
    Tooele

    New Mexico-4
    October 2016
    Gallup, Albuquerque, Santa Rosa, Tucumcari

    Texas-4
    October 2016
    Amarillo, Shamrock, Sulphur Springs, Lindale

    Oklahoma-3
    October 2016
    Weatherford, Oklahoma City, Catoosa

    Louisiana-4
    October 2016
    Shreveport, Lake Charles, Baton Rouge, Slidell

    Alabama-2
    October 2016
    Greenville, Auburn

    Georgia-1
    October 2016
    Atlanta

    Tennessee-2
    November 2016
    Chattanooga, Knoxville

    Kentucky-1
    November 2016
    London

    Ohio-4
    November 2016
    Cincinnati, Grove City, Macedonia, Maumee

    Indiana-1
    November 2016
    Mishawaka

    Illinois-1
    November 2016
    Peru

    Iowa-2
    November 2016
    Coralville, West Des Moines

    Minnesota-1
    November 2016
    Worthington

    South Dakota-3 (all)
    November 2016
    Mitchell, Murdo, Rapid City

    Wyoming-2
    November 2016
    Gillette, Sheridan

    Montana-5
    November 2016
    Big Timber, Bozeman, Butte, Missoula, Superior

    Idaho-3
    November 2016
    Couer d'Alene
    January 2017
    Boise, Twin Falls
     
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    I also hit a supercharger at the Gigafactory but I seem to remember a discussion that disallowed an SC that is not generally accessible to the public.
    Thanks in advance for updating!
     
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